Max Shred Xtreme Antler Review – Do They Really Work?

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It’s no secret that guys across the country will do practically whatever it takes to get ripped and shredded, even dabbling in illegal drugs to get the body they want. A recent blog post I saw on a supposed “men’s health” site called Men’s Life and Health reports that you don’t need to revert to steroids to get massive, but instead, you can turn to 2 supplements celebrity’s have been taking ripped, lean physiques.

What supplement stack could they possibly be talking about? None other than Max Shred and Xtreme Antler, 2 over the counter supplements that apparently the companies of which are handing out free bottles of the stuff. I mean, why would a company want to turn a profit when they can just hand the stuff out. Well, you’re about to thank me for saving you from the scam that these products turn out to be!

What is Max Shred and Xtreme Antler?

max shred reviewAccording to this blog post I’m reading, Max Shred (or Maximum Shred as it’s referred to on their official site) is a all natural pre-workout supplement that is designed to get you stronger, bigger, and more cut. It also apparently helps you gain more muscle from workouts, boosts your energy, burns fat, and gives you massive looking pumps, all within a few weeks!

We tried finding an official ingredients list, but there is nothing listed on the Max Shred website. My guess is that it contains some sort of L-Arginine based on their descriptions, and maybe even a stimulant or 2. It would be a little more helpful to determine whether or not there is the potential for side effects if we knew what the ingredients were, but i digress.

Xtreme Antler works very similarly according to their official site, boasting extreme gains in muscle growth, supercharging your sex drive, and improving memory and mental skills. Just like Max Shred, the potential side effects from the ingredients in Xtreme Antler are not mentioned, but in this case I think it is safe to assume that probably the only ingredient in it is Deer Antler Velvet, or IGF-1.

Deer antler velvet is quite the controversial substance (similar to Ligandrol), and was actually used by Ray Lewis from the Baltimore Ravens to help recover from an injury prior to the Superbowl. (source: 1)

The interesting thing to note about Deer Antler Velvet is that, while it’s banned by major sports leagues, the NCAA, and High school athletics, it is NOT detected in urine tests. The only way to see if your using it is by doing a blood test.

So Does Using Max Shred And Xtreme Antler Really Work?xtreme antler and maxshred

Most likely not, at least not the way they say it will. First off, the article you think your reading on a men’s health article is really an advertisement. How do I know this? Because if I try to click on any of the links on their page, it directs me to an offer for either Max Shred or Extreme Antler.

Hmmmm, yeah, you would be quite right if you are thinking that is a little bit fishy because quite frankly, it is nothing but fishy.

Red flag #1.

Second, the page is littered with comments, which apparently were all posted today. Of course all of the comments about Max Shred and Xtreme Antler are positive, with guys raving about it’s effectiveness. I tried to leave a comment, and wouldn’t you know it, it’s not going through. It’s not even taking me to a page that says the comment is awaiting moderation.

Red Flag #2.

Also, I noticed that there is no such magazine titled “Men’s Life and Health”…

Red Flag #3.

Finally, and this is the biggest issue, is the fact that the only way you can get these supplements is by signing up for a free trial. “But what could be the problem with that?? I like free stuff!”, you’re probably saying right now.

Well, here’s the thing…you’re NOT actually getting a free sample of the product. When you go to order, they ask for a credit card to help pay for shipping. Sounds fair, until you undoubtedly miss the fine print stating that you can use the product for 14 days, after which they are going to charge you a collective $189 for “testing” out the products.

What’s even worse is the fact that, if you don’t cancel within those 14 days, they WILL continually send you the product and keep billing your credit card until you cancel. This “deceptive marketing practice” has been used for years, and I have been seeing these miracle combo ads popping up all over the internet, especially social networks.

Some of these combo’s include Blackline Elite and Refuel Extreme, and Nitro Shred and Alpha Fuel XT, just to name a few.

That doesn’t necessarily mean that all free trials are scams. There’s plenty of reputable sellers providing free samples, including Nugenix, Instaflex, and Optimind, all of whom will give you a refund if you ask for one.

Lastly, Here is probably the only credible review I found from someone who has ACTUALLY used Extreme Antler and Maximum Shred, check out his review below:


In short, his experience can be summarized by the following statements:

  • It isn’t working for me
  • I’m taking 5 capsules, while they say to take 3
  • It tastes like shit, similar to talcum powder
  • It’s pathetic, it does NOT work
  • They sign you up for a subscription service (which I already mentioned above)
  • Xtreme Antler – The only thing I’ve noticed is that my hunger level has increased, but not in the day. He says he wakes up at 2 am, completely starving.
  • Don’t buy them, they’re both a waste of money.

No a very flattering review, especially for a product claiming as much as it does.

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Questions We’ve Received About Max Shred and Deer Antler

I was researching max shred and deer antler on the internet and came across your review.It’s the only ‘real’ review of the products I could find, and I definitely won’t be ordering them now, thanks to your review.

Aside from a post work-out shake are there any other real supplements on the market you would recommend for before or after a session at the gym?
Lee Gallagher, UK


Yeah there are tons of these supplement combos being advertised all over the internet. I try to write about as many of these scams as possible but sometimes google decides to not rank them so well, so guys don’t learn about these scams until its too late.

Anyways, as far as supplements go, I would suggest a pre-workout supp called Nitrocut, and a T booster called Testofuel. They are both designed to start working in about a week, and will give you the best results. Here are my reviews:



Rob Miller,

My Results With Max Shred and Extreme Antler

max shred and extreme antler reviewSince this particular post has received alot of traffic over the last few months, I thought it would only be fair to give Max Shred and Extreme Antler a try and see if it really works. I ordered a 3 months supply of each and started taking it about 1 month ago, and I have to say I’m quite disappointed.

Not only did I NOT see any insane results / gains in muscle, I honestly felt sick after taking this stuff. I didn’t notice it for the first few days, but towards the end of the first week I started to feel like I was coming down with cold / flu like symptoms. I was unsure as to whether or not the Maximum Shred and Deer Antler were the cause, so I just stopped taking it for about a week and within a few days started to feel normal again.

I restarted taking the supplements and, once again, that feeling of sickness started to return. This convinced me wholeheartedly that the supplements must have been the cause. After about 2 weeks of feeling like shit I had enough…I stopped taking them and trashed the rest. No effects whatsoever.

My Recommendation

It’s highly recommended that you don’t order Max Shred and Xtreme Antler for the reasons listed above. Is stacking supplements, specifically a pre-workout booster and deer antler spray, worth it? Absolutely! But, there are plenty of other products out there on the market that will leave you with better results, at a far cheaper price.

Some of you may be getting to this page a bit late, and have already ordered it. My suggestion to you is to contact BOTH companies as quickly as possible to help avoid the headaches and financial strain that these 2 products will ultimately cause you. If you need specific help just leave a comment below and I’ll try to help you out in any way I can.

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Ripped off !

By Liam,  Jul 22, 2014

Complete scam ! I received so called free sample of xtreme antler and maximum shred.  Garbage ! Then as soon as I received it I cancelled like the fine print reads.  Well doesn't another two bottles show up for an additional $198 Canadian charged to my card ! I snapped and they said of course it's cancelled now and of course what else shows up but two more bottles for a total of $400 !  I'm pissed they are scams don't get fooled ! I'm still fighting this one!

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deer antler n maximum shred

By zach bartok,  Aug 1, 2014

I've been taking these 2 products for around 2 months now so...with all of these comments there BS these products do work and they do help you gain lean muscle and also burns fat, gives you a great pump you get a tighter feeling when you flex and you actually start to feel the results within around less than a week I've gained over 15 lbs of muscle over the 2 whatever you guys wan to think you can look me up on facebook I've also taken these supps around a yr ago which is my profile picture... that was after a couple weeks... i've been working out all my life basically i'm 26 atm ive tryed so many supplements and these products do work! Thanks

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Max Shred - Xtreme Antler

By Jonathon Fussell,  Mar 4, 2015

Started using Maximum Shred tonight for the first time. I took one pill (a third of a serving) before leaving for the gym.  When I got to the gym, I felt sort of uneasy and had a little stomach discomfort. After beginning my workout, this discomfort subsided and I had a phenomenal workout.  I realized that the supplement isn't so much of a muscle building supplement as much as just a different, intense preworkout. Definitely something that could be found at Vitamin Shoppe or GNC for a 10th of the cost.  I enjoyed using the product and will most likely finish out the 30 day free trial, but will probably not continue to take this supplement. Most of my workout was stimulated by the fact that I was trying something new.  Almost like a placebo effect. Granted, it did make me workout harder and made me want to workout harder... But, that was all in my head.  Not worth $180 or however much they're scamming for this shit. In conclusion, any actual "gains" are and will be a result of anything but Maximum Shred.  Definitely not what it claims to be.

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Not bad

By Marc,  Mar 1, 2015

Although I felt disappointed that the free trial turned into an ongoing order; I managed to negotiate a 50% discount on the max shred. It has given me more strength in the gym - much like creatine, and I can lift more for longer.  I don't think it is placebo and I was realistic about the products claims. After the gym I am looking more toned.  Not worth the price at face value.

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another scam

By matt,  Sep 23, 2014

I got both cause I was doing the gym 4-5 times a week trying to lose some weight. I got the sense it was a scam but went for it anyway.  Once I got my order I started taking the shred before the gym, but it just made me feel sick to my stomach. I'd get home do a protein shake and the antler.  I looked a bit closer and realized they were going to charge my card, so I called my bank and had my cc canceled before they could. Stopped using it due to the feeling sick, and it kept me up at night even when I worked out first thing in the morning.

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Will this make me fail a drug screen? -Kenny

It shouldn't, but you should bring a bottle label just in case.- Rob

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Do I use xtreme antler spray before or after my workout? -Elizabeth

I haven't tested it myself. You'd have to follow the instructions on the bottle.- Rob

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I bought this for myself was wondering if females can take this or can you recommend something for woman. Thanks -Harry

It's safe for women, but I don't recommend this kind of free trial product. You would do better with the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack.- Rob

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378 comments on “Max Shred Xtreme Antler Review – Do They Really Work?”

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  1. Do not buy this product, they have hidden fees and costs that they are not upfront about. I talked to a very difficult man in their customer service who did not accommodate to the customers needs at all.

    I do not recommend this product or supporting this business.
    1. Hey Michele,

      They are safe for women at the same dose as men, but I wouldn’t recommend them as effective for anyone. If you let me know what your goals are, I can recommend a supplement or stack with a great fit for you.

  2. Very good site you have here bbut I was curious if you knew of any user discussion forums that cover the same topics talked about here?

    I’d really like to be a part of group where I can get responses from other knowledgeable individuals
    that share the same interest. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

    1. Hey Buddy,

      For talk about workout issues, I’d go to the forums at For male enhancement issues, PEGym forums are helpful.

  3. I would like to increase my energy, reduce my fatigue and increase my stamina.I have Muscular Dystrophy so it is difficult to build muscles, ifear your book won’t work for me.I would like to know if there is anything to increase my energy. I am also sleep ing to much during the day.

    I need something to help me. If you know of anything, let me know.

    I am 43 male 5’10 and 130lbs
    1. Hey Stuart,

      You might benefit from a testosterone booster, like Testofuel. They tend to increase energy without the use of stimulants. I would also recommend that you get a full night’s sleep each night, and some exercise each day. It can be cardio or it can be some light resistance training. Either way, exercise will increase your energy. Of course, you’ll want to check with your doctor before starting any supplements.

  4. Would like to know how come you charged us $6.62 on 12/4/15,on 6/6/15 again charged $124.55 n on 6/7/15 charged $130.98.Can you explain.Just ordered 1 bottle why have you send 2.
    1. Hey Ravin,

      My guess is that you signed up for a free trial, which automatically signed you up for monthly shipments. They call it a free trial, but the monthly autoshipment plan is only talked about in the fine print.

      Unfortunately, is a review website. You’ll have to contact Max Shred and Xtreme Antler directly.

      The number for Maximum Shred is 1-800-622-4871. For Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652.

  5. Hey there Rob,

    Great site, amazing information, thank you.. all signed up with your book, quick question though. I was curious about the max shred and xtreme antler.. got it, got the scam, got 50% reduced, and am in the first trial period now.

    I will probably be cancelling tomorrow morning, but, now that I do have the product, would you have recommendations as to when I should take them? it shows 3 max shred and 2 antler a day.. I’ll probably be looking to cut that down on the shred, as i’m not a huge fan of caffeine, but would 1 shred in morning pre-workout, and then at lunch make sense? and then for antler, is it a post workout? i would have that after my morning workout and then again.. when? *for those of us too curious to just dump it all


    1. Hey Harry,

      My experience with these two was awful. I wouldn’t recommend you use them at all.

      But if you do, yeah, stick with 2 Max Shred early in the day and 2 Xtreme Antler sprays at night. You can start there, and if you need to change it up a little after you get a sense of what it does, that would be fine.

  6. If you have sent out emails to maximum shred and extreme antler to cancel and have this $189 bill on your credit card what do you do?
    1. Hey Austen,

      The first thing you do is give them a call. The number for Maximum Shred is 1-800-622-4871, and for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652. Tell them you’ve sent them emails and that you want to cancel. If you still can’t reach them, call your credit card company and tell them you no longer want to accept charges from these guys.

      It won’t get you your money back, but it can stop you from incurring any further charges.

      1. Hey rob

        Thanks for getting back to me I called and they actually took 50% off the bill for me so it wasn’t too bad

  7. They were very nice to me and both bottles were only 84.00 . You have to do the work and eat right .

    I have made some serious gains with these products . Deer antler spray has been around for 2000 years .

    Maximum Shred doesn’t mess with my BP or HR . The guy who posted he couldn’t sleep also said he took 5 pills
    instead of 3 .

    The caffeine is only 180mg. Most energy drinks are 2 to 3 times more that .If you
    are caffeine sensitive you have another issue .

    Read the fine print and they will give you a discount and you can stop it at anytime . There is no miracle pill ; you still need to eat right for your goals and you need to do the work stop bad mouthing a good product .

    There approach isn’t ideal but this stuff WORKS !
  8. Dear Rob,

    First and foremost thanks for saving me from this scam of Max Shred.

    I go to gym atleast 5 days in a week and workout for almost 2 hrs that comes to 10 hrs in a week.

    I want to reduce my tummy and heap fat.

    Can you suggest me any supplement which can help me cut the fat in this areas.

    I have love handles and I want to get rid of them, I am not inclined towards getting a six pack ab, but I just want a flat tummy.

    Kindly help me with your suggestion.

    Awaiting your response
    1. Hey Anand,

      Great to hear your working out so diligently! Check out a fat burner called Instant Knockout. It does double duty by providing pre workout energy on top of burning fat and suppressing appetite.

      Alternatively, if you really want to “up the ante” you could check out a supplement called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack. It’s perfect for targeting hard to reach fat, and burns it right the hell off haha.

      1. Dear Rob,

        I checked the reviews by you and your team.

        The product Instant Knockout contains huge amount of Caffeine and My body will not respond to it.

        Kindly suggest me any suppliment which is lower in Caffein.
          1. Dear Rob,

            Thanks for the suggestion.

            Can you make me understand the what exactly do you mean by Non – Stimulant (Nitrocut).

            Secondly will I’ll be able to reduce the extra fat by using Nitro Cut.
          2. Hey Anand,

            Nitrocut does not contain any central nervous system stimulants, like caffeine. It uses nitric oxide boosting ingredients to provide energy for your workouts. It helps you burn fat but improving your ability to work out harder and get better results.

  9. Hi so I just stupidly ordered a 14 day trial and I don’t know how to cancel my account or order please help. Thanks
    1. Hey Alton,

      I’ve tried calling the phone numbers they provide, and it looks like they’ve been disconnected. Call your credit card company or bank and tell them you don’t want to accept any more charges from them.

      1. Hey thank you fob. I did call the number to the confirmation email and I was able to cancel but if I get charged after the 2 weeks then I will call my credit card company. Thanks though
  10. can anyone help me i stupidly ordered this crap and i cannot work out how to cancel it i have tried calling all the numbers but they are all disconnected and i am being charged for this shit that i will never use.
    1. Hey Jacob,

      If you’ve tried all the numbers and they don’t work, contact your credit card and tell them you don’t want to accept any more of their charges.

  11. I own and operate a gym and for all those interested this company is about the most underhanded fly-by-night outfit I’ve encountered. Lots of companies push marginal products, but when contacted regarding billing/side effect issues they were uncooperative and extremely rude.

    Do yourself a favor and just avoid them entirely, and be sure to warn off your lifting buddies. Seriously.

  12. Here’s the number I called to dump both at the same time(saves you one call)
    I talked to “Brandon” he tried to read his script, and give me deals, but I just cut him off, and said, I can appreciate you trying to do your job, but it ain’t happening, I’ll take my lumps over the shipping, and that’ll be that…
    Thanx Rob, wish I had looked you up first, DL’d your ebook, see how that goes..
    1. Thanks Ralf,

      Let me know if you have any questions when you read the ebook.

    1. Of course you can, but it’s more effective when you comment in the comments section and not the reviews section 🙂

  13. I just saw this recently on two different occasion. It’s hard to believe when you see an ad from ripped muscle x and an ad from xtreme antler (both from same company) using the same pictures of people like Dwight Howard, Chris Pratt and even the ESPN writer “Daniel ” that have taken them.

    Same article but different products. How is that is that believable?

  14. Thanks for the review! it is always sketchy lookin at these commercial products they try to sell but it’s a good reminder not to buy them when you see the reviews!
  15. Hey, I fell for the max shred scam and was was not sure if it was legit or not. Well I called max shred and extreme antler to cancel my membership.

    I ordered the supplements on the 23rd so I canceled them within their deadline. However, they are still charging me 38.71 per bottle.

    So there is no such thing as a free trial. Even if you cancel within 14 days they will still charge you without your consent.. bitches..

  16. So far I have done 8 days out of 9 on this stuff. I have logged the details of this on the WYRED account at

    In a nutshell this stuff needs more quality control.

    It does something but it does not increase calorie burn I have 8 days of data to prove that.

    Since they have fraudulently charged me already I will continue the testing and review it everywhere I can.
  17. THIS IS NOT A SCAM! Terms clearly state if you dont cancel before trial date ends they will charge you.

    Also explicitly says to send bottles back upon cancellation. If you get charged after cancellation thats your fault.

    Product is nothing special. Noticed nothing, felt nothing.

    But for $4 it was worth a taste I suppose.
  18. I see a conflict of interest here as there is in most places and all every comment. What makes this site any more credible than another? (i.e. what makes anything on the Internet true?).

    I mean if it’s not Angies List how can it be real?
    1. Hey Terry,

      I understand your skepticism. I do have an affiliate relationship with some of the products I recommend.

      But only for products I’ve personally used and had great success with. It’s hard to know who to trust, but just like with anything else, do you own research as well, and trust your instincts.

  19. The review is for the product but, if I were to rate the critique above I would give it 5 stars. Not only was the critique true but, while on yahoo the same ad popped up under the news feed and on legitimate articles.

    The ad poses as an ESPN article and uses the names and images of NFL NY Jets offensive lineman Dan Lee, LaRon Landry and Guardians of the Galaxy’s lead actor Chris Pratt.

    I’ve see this ad twice but with two different product names “Fat BurnX” and the product mentioned above. The Fat BurnX was paired with another product that I don’t remember yet.

    Both products were “reviewed” by the and received rave reviews.

    Which compels me so say “Don’t trust the supplementpolice’s recommendation!" Whats also suspicious about that website is that it had links to the product purchase pages. The ad is titled on yahoo as: “Woman Dumps Boyfriend.

    His Revenge Is Priceless.
    After being dumped on his birthday for being “too overweight”, this man tested a weird new f?t loss method.

    The results were unbelievable."

    It also claims to be tested by sales director Daniel Bellini of ESPN who reports his “experience” with the product and endorses it.

    Thank You Supplement Critique for being legit!
  20. If I call to cancel my account with them and they are still trying to charge my card but I cancel my card, will the collection attempts come out on my credit report?
    1. Hey Phillip,

      I haven’t heard of anyone going into collections for any of these “free trial” scams.

    2. Cancel your card. You will get a new one in a few days and no one will be able to charge anything to it if you don’t tell them the new number.

      In fact. you should do this before you even get the product. Don’t be surprised if the product never arrives.

      This is why delivery takes so long. They wait until they have charged your card before they ship the product so you can’t avoid their trap.

      Don’t be disappointed. You have just learned a valuable lesson about avoiding internet scams.

  21. BIGGEST scam ever!!
    Got the ‘trial’ order for $10 then a month later was charged $100+ and again a month after that another $100+ I called (hung up after 20 minutes of the bloke trying to convince me not to cancel) and emailed to but they said they didn’t get the email in time. Funny how I emailed a week before the $ was taken out.

    Had to cancel my bank card which has caused me a whole new set of issues…all I can say is DONT DO IT!!!
  22. Hi I ordered the ‘free’ sample gave my credit card details.The products took 22 days to arrive so no ‘free’ trial period. I rang and cancelled but still got charged.

    Not very happy.
  23. Hey guess what? I fell into that trap this morning… I called both companies and I had to pay more than 80$ for cancelling my accounts.

    Should I cancel my card as well or I should be fine now that I’ve paid the cancellation fees?
    1. Hey Sebastien,

      I’m not sure why you had to pay “cancellation fees”. If you ordered it and canceled within the same day, to the best of my knowledge you should only be charged the original shipping fees.

      It seems a little fishy to me. I would definitely call and cancel with your credit card as well.

    2. seen another advertisement that looked so similar to the one that got me so I looked and discovered now they are calling it “Max Test 300″ and Max No
      notice the “espn” in the url again..that is what got me but they are far from being affiliated with espn. These guys should be arrested ..god knows what is in that stuff???
    1. If I worked for the company then why would I have rated their products poorly?

  24. I have order both maximum shred and extreme antler before I read this review, HUGE MISTAKE. The customer service reps are just mindless clones reading a script.

    They never once answered my questions but just kept telling me to keep my account open til the 9th of January, which I’d like to point out is past my 14 day trial.

    Also a email from the company said my order didn’t go through, and that I needed to finish filling out information. But when I went to do so it opt me to rebuy the products, I was a little smarter here and didn’t re order.

    Because when on the phone with customer service they said my order went through.

    I asked them about the email 5 times and the lady paused for 30 secs before answering every time with the same response ” you have up to 14 days to cancel, please feel free to use the product and not be charged” the heck kinda answer was that. Also they package deal the extreme antler with the maximum shred, so anybody who ordered already remember to cancel on both sites not just one.

    The package is already being sent,I canceled my account and will also give a review on how it worked.

  25. I ordered the free trial of extreme antler and maximum shred and I saw the fine print where you have 14 days to cancel after you order. I called and told them I wanted to cancel it and they kept wanted to extend it and for me to give them feedback.

    Well I extended it a week and then called and the computer recording told me for 38 dollars I could cancel all orders and keep both products so I did that.

    Today I got an email from them saying my product had shipped and the ignorant lady had the nerve to ask me how I like the product when I asked why they charged my card and were sending me more when I had cancelled. She then goes on about how it only cancelled the maximum shred and I had not cancelled the extreme antler.

    I told her cancel it now and asked if I could ship it back for a refund because I did not want it and was supposed to be cancelled.

    She went on with this long speech about how she could not because it has already shipped and then asked me if I would like to extend my trial to January. That is when I knew I was working with a total retard.

    I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND this to my worst enemy.

    All they are worried about is profit and totally screwing you on top of seeing no results! If you want velvet spray go anywhere other than these people and for the maximum shred it is total crap!

    They don’t even have a place on their site for reviews because they know how crappy they are!

    I hope some people see this before falling for their garbage.
  26. Hey i fell for the scam too, a lot of people have as far as i can see and if you haven’t fell for it and you are doing a bit of research looking for reviews first, good, don’t buy it.

    I ordered both maximum shred and extreme antler and the maximum shred i felt nothing, no pre work effects at all. And the extreme antler, after about 2 days of using it i started getting really sore cankers on my tongue, but i dint know that it was from this, used it for about 4 days and after that i couldn’t use it anymore it got way too sore, i had like 7 – 10 cankers on my tongue and they were sooo sore it was effecting my eating coz it would hurt overtime i ate, i had to stay away from most foods because they would hurt so much.

    it took about 2 weeks for them to fully go away.

    DO NOT BUY IT, its a scam, a waste of money and will mess up your tongue
  27. I was reading “ESPN EXCLUSIVE: UCLA Footballer Jake Jones Exposes The 2 Step Method Behind His Incredible 4 Week Transformation”. They are taking about (Maximum shred and Xtreme antler) with a FREE TRIAL link to each product.

    I licked the links and order my FREE TRIALS, but luckily the FREE TRIALS period has just ended 3 minutes before I submitted my order. Then I come to this and found out I was just lucky as I am.

    Thanks, you’ve safe me.
  28. I ordered the maximum shred & xtreme antler for $8.90 through the espn trial offer. Then I ended up here and after reading the comment I called and canceled.

    Since it was only 2 hours since I ordered I was assured it would never reach my door and i would be refunded. But the agent alarmed be a bit by saying “if it does reach your door just refuse the shipment so you don’t get charged.

    I’m thinking of canceling the credit card i used after reading how they came back later and charged. Thanks to all for a heads up. ill post back if all turns out ok.

    Will we ever learn about these to good to be true products and services???? I told myself i would never do it again but here i am lol
    1. Hey Carl,

      Don’t beat yourself up about it. It’s happened to thousands of guys, maybe millions. Be sure to sign up for my free “Get Ripped” ebook too. It’s packed with tons of diet and exercise tips, supplements optional.

      1. I said I would post back how things turned out , well here is what happened.

        like i said before i had called within 2 hours of ordering to cancel. I first asked how long does it take until the order ships, i was told 48 hrs..I said good I caught in time to cancel. Like I mentioned before she said “if it does reach your door just refuse the shipment” that brings us to it arriving at my door in a plain little white box with no company info anywhere on the box just an address from savannah ga. Since I have a friend that lives there and its Christmas season I assumed it was from my friend and opened it to find it was the max shred and antler extreme

        needless to say I called my credit card company right away to cancel the card. even if the product works this company uses nefarious tactic for sure. because of all this I’m afraid to even use this stuff.

        I’m a bit baffled as to how this was on the espn website ( which is the only reason i trusted it. now there is a 404 not found at that website. I would recommend staying far away from this.
        1. Hey Carl,

          Thanks for the update. I have to say at this point, I am never surprised at the lows these companies will stoop to.

          The “” website isn’t related to ESPN at all. They just used the name for a while to draw in customers by making it seem legit.

          Now, as you mentioned, they’re gone. Maybe ESPN forced them to take the site down, or maybe they did it on their own before they got caught.

          Thanks again for keeping us posted.

          1. i ordered and recieved MAXIMUM SHRED and XTREME ANTLER ,now I’ve read your reviews, went back and read small print sure enough, advertised as FREE, small print says trial period then so much for this and so much for that BLAH BLAH BLAH, I’ve been the idiot that got scammed F–K!!! anyway since reading your reviews i called the numbers that you give cancelled and got a cancellation confirmation number, is that good??? or would you recommend I persue other avenues? now that i got the product paid my cancellation fees I might as well take the product, so I’m asking what is the best way to take these???
          2. Hey Kenny,

            You should be fine since you’ve got confirmation numbers. Just keep a close watch on your credit card, and if you get charged, jump right on it.

            But like I said, I think you’re all set. As for how to take them, I haven’t used them, so I recommend you follow the instructions on the packages.

  29. Hey. I too fell for this scam.

    I cancelled my card after calling the a sales rep at Max Shred. They were extremely pushy and said i can’t cancel until i receive the shipments.

    But since i cancelled my card do i need to cancel my account when i receive them? Others said the cancellation process is long and theyll keep trying to sell me the product again.

    I just want to know if I NEED to call them. Thanks!

    1. Hey Zachary,

      It would seem that you’d be set by canceling your card, but I don’t have any inside knowledge of their process. If I were you, I’d make the call after you get the supplements.

  30. Hey sorry i filled out the online form to recieve a bottle of maximum shred, however when i entered my credit card details and tried to purchase, a message came up saying error in credit card details so i decided to leave it because it seemed dodgy. Tofay they emailed me giving me a further discount and i thought i would give it a go, but i think i entered the card details wrong again glad now after reading this, but i am just wondering if theres any chance that the payment went through even though the error message came up?

    Please help
    1. Hey Sam,

      I have no way of knowing if your payment went through. You’ll have to contact your credit card company, and they can help you out.

      Do make sure though that you cancel with Max Shred and Xtreme Antler before your trial period is up.

  31. Dear All,

    Don’t order these products and they charge you without your permission some weeks back. I mailed them asking refund but no proper reply. so please think twice before you entering your card details.

    Thank You.
  32. Hey Haha I’ve Jus signed up for this supposed free trial an Jus pay for shipping asking as u cancel within the 14 days.. Think I’m going to cancel right now if only i had looked into it properly..

    Anything for that ripped bod Haha I’m a sucker!!
    1. Hey Scott,
      Don’t feel bad, you would be SHOCKED at how many people fall for this…you’re not alone.

      Check out my free “Get Ripped” ebook…it’s packed with tons of info on diet and exercise to help you get the body you’re looking for. Supplements are optional… 🙂

  33. Hey rob I am 16, I was diagnosed with skin cancer at thirteen. I was on track to my dream of being an nfl wide reciever. I gained a hundred and seventy pounds.

    I need help and I was hoping these products were part of the answer sir. I love your work and one day hope to meet you when I make it big any way god bless and thank you for your inspiration.

    1. Hey Dynosous,

      At your age, I really don’t recommend you take supplements beyond protein and creatine. None of the rest have been tested on kids under 18, so it’s just not worth the risk. The most important components of getting fit are of course diet and workout, so sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s filled with great advice and plans for both. And be sure to keep in touch about your progress.

  34. The Maximum Shred customer service team is abaolutely HORRIBLE. They are just out to get your money.

    I talked to a representative named Hayley and she is probably one of the rudest individuals I have ever talked to.

    Don’t waste your money, don’t try these products.
  35. can u please help me – I have already ordered this and took it for a day – I felt shakey and Un well / I don’t want to be charged anymore I thought it was a free trail
  36. Hey rob,
    Just got sucked in. Bought it about 9 this morning and was on my lunch break before and found this page.

    I tried to email the rep and the 2 websites still no responses. I really can’t afford this stuff.

    I will call them when I finish work. Would they have sent it within 7 hours of the order.
    If I call up will they let me cancel it today?

    1. Hey Sam,

      Unfortunately, most guys have found that they won’t cancel the order once you place it, even if you try like half an hour later. Lame, but true. You can try to cancel now, but most likely, they’ll say you have to call after you receive the product. Don’t feel so bad, thought. It happens all the time.

      Check out my free “Get Ripped and Lean” Ebook, it’s packed with tons of tips on diet and exercise to help you get ripped, with or without supplements.

  37. same is everyone else on here, i wish i read these reviews prior to accepting the FREE trial.
    $400 later and still trying to cancel this!
    if it sounds to be good to be true it usually is
  38. I ordered both even tho I read the fine print. Had an idea to scam them if I get results by canceling my card and turning around and reordering with another card. (repeat as necessary) not sure if it will work due to the same address over and over.

    But seems to settle the score.
  39. I to fell for this scam! I called to cancel and they of coarse tried to talk me out of canceling. i told them that i have a Chemical burn (from work) on my leg and my Dr. doesn’t want me to sweat due to it’s affect on the healing process. they tried to talk me into posponing the offer until i was healed up.

    I got tried of their crap so i called my bank and canceled my debit card and ordered a new one. it’s that easy don’t mess with them people.
    1. Can’t say I haven’t heard that one before, but its true…if you cancel your debit card you can get away with it. But it’s a bit more hassle then it’s worth.

      1. Thanks Rob,
        I have just had back surgery and after sitting at home for a while gaining a few kilos thought I would look at supplements , glad I read your review after reading their review guess I saved a few dollars already, thanks once again
        1. Hey Stephen,

          Sorry to hear about your back. When your doctor clears you to start working out again, let me know and I’ll recommend some supplements that would suit your needs.


  40. I was just wondering since i am a tad interested in trying these products since I’ve heard they do actually give results, would it work to use a pre paid visa with only enough money on it for one shipment so if they tried to re bill me they just couldn’t because there wouldn’t be any money left?
    1. Hey Sam,

      That should work, but I would also call and cancel before the trial period is up just to cover all your bases.

  41. I fell into the trap as well. I hit a plateua and was looking to try new products and this came across.

    I received the product, and knew about the charge after 14 days and made a note to cancel before then. However, I read an earlier review who said to cancel your card and that’s what I did the day after I received the products. No way they can charge you if your card has been cancelled.

    A $5 fee for a new debit card is worth hours trying to cancel the trial and paying shipping fees back.
    1. Yeah i’ve heard of that tactic before, it’s just a bit of a pain in the ass.

      No worries though, glad it worked out for you. Check out my free “Get Ripped and Lean” Ebook, it’s packed with tons of tips on diet and exercise to help you get ripped, with or without supplements.

  42. I got into that stupid xtreme antler and maximum shred too. But I call to cancel and they say can’t cancel till I have it and try out.

    Called them twice. So what do I do?

    1. Hey Simon,

      As soon as you receive it in the mail, call and cancel. If you don’t get it within the 14 day trial timeframe, call and cancel on the 13th day anyway.

      Most of them have the rule that you can’t cancel till you get the product. It sucks but it’s pretty typical.

  43. i tryed the first bottle they sent me , it didnt work , i got a second bottle didnt work . fuck these cunts . im from new zealand by the way . can someone please help me get in contact with them to cancel the trial . they are taking 80% of my income every week an i dont know to stop it . any advise out there
  44. The only website I have ever entered my ccard details was paypal. I didnt like that this site didnt offer paypal payment so did a little digging, read this page from top to bottom and am so relieved!

    I feel for everyone who got ripped off by this
    1. OMG… Why couldn’t I have fount this site before signing my credit card away. I ordered on the 05/09. emailed support on the 19/09 to advise that I hadn’t received the package.

      Fell over when I received my CC statement today with 192.50 charges. Product arrived finally on the 22/09. charges on CC 30/09.

      Not much of a trial. Customer Service today advises that email on the 19/09 does not constitute contact for trial extension.

      What a load of S##T have canceled cc and submitted fraud claim and contacted office of fair trading. DO NOT SIGN UP FOR FREE TRIAL IT IS A TOTAL SCAM!!!!!!!!!

  45. I got sucked in by them. Thought it was a real health magazine or something.

    After I signed up for the Max Shred and Extreme Antler “free trials” I kept looking on the internet for information on them and came here. I immediately called to cancel and because it was right after I ordered them they did void the shipping costs.

    The lady I spoke with did try to assure me that they do work but I wasn’t having it so she quit trying to feed me that garbage and promptly canceled my order. So at least their customer service was efficient and cordial!

  46. Do not use this product or purchase it, luckily I saw this and cancelled the card when it was still pending with my bank. Wankers

  47. I fill all the request field but when they asked for a credit card number I flushed the whole damn thing…
  48. 7 out of 5 Stars!!

    Max Shred & Deer Antler actually does work!! I just ordered my free shipment this morning, it came in around lunch time and by dinner time my Six pack had a six pack!! Muscles grew muscles!! And it was Free!! All I did was pay a small,very tiny shipping fee of $10 a day for the rest of my life for the first two bottles… Needless to say I’ve gained 40lbs of muscle and lost 40lbs of Fat!! I know, because I weighed 180 pounds then took the pills then worked out then weighed myself and BAM!! Now I weigh an astonishing 180lbs… Before max shred my GF said she loved my body.. So I dumped her for being a liar but now after Max Shred I have 4 girlfriends… So don’t listen to these negative haters against max shred…order your free trial now and look like a warrior from the movie 300 the next morning!! Trust me..

    It works.. If it didn’t work I wouldn’t put my name on it!!

    Signed, Anonymous

  49. Just fell into their trap then. Ordered some and then jumped on this website to see what other people thought of it and saw what was in the fine print. I called them immediately after reading this and they wouldn’t let me cancel my membership until I received the trial.

    Only when I receive it I’m allowed to cancel. What a joke

    1. Yup, very common with these types of products. Did they say you have to send it back when you cancel?

      1. yeah I rang them immediately after looking at this website. they said that I cant cancel until I receive it in the mail.. not sure what the difference is in me ending the contract now and when I receive it.. just goes to show its like they always say, nothing is ever free!
  50. So if anyone does put their credit card info in and receives the charge for the product, call them immediately demanding a full refund. My girlfriend ordered a green coffee bean combo pack from one of these facebook scams, then two days later was also charged $90 per bottle, I then called up the number provided which was an offshore Caribbean Islands number, claimed to be her lawyer, threatened to sue, within two days she got a full refund.

    If you make the mistake of ordering call them tell them you are getting a lawyer, send back the product, they will refund your money.
  51. I found the warnings on this page too late. I should of read and researched before jumping in.

    The product is very average and the secret billing on the credit card is way more than anyone would want to pay, I had to cancel my card as the customer service stated it would take a further 34 days to cancel. Even after they have taken the money they stop sending the product, A true scam!

    Please do not buy from these people or I can asure you will be disappointed!!
  52. SO I rang up and cancelled my order after realising how stupid an idea it was. Spoke to some rep who gave me some ID No. that I say is bogus however I stayed on the phone until I got them to confirm by email that they actually cancelled the order for me.

    I got an RMA number to put on the parcel and send back. Does this sound like it will work?

    Considering cancelling card as well?
  53. I also stupidly ordered both these products without reading the fine print. I have to admit that they were very professional on the phone and cancelled my further shipments.

    I have not been charged any extra fees but cancelled my credit card after reading all this! I appreciate you and all the feedback.

    I am interested in your getting ripped book! I am 53 and work out 3 to 4 times a week but have trouble at my age with weight.

    Thank you for all you’ve done.
    1. Hey Rob,

      Glad to hear we could help! I’ll send the “getting ripped” ebook to your email address, so keep a lookout for it. When you’re ready to look at more supplements, a great stack for you is Nitrocut and Testofuel.

  54. Just foolishly signed up for both products and was only after that the now obvious red flags started showing. At the very bottom of the page it even has a disclaimer stating the person and story aren’t real.

    Just finished getting off the phone with the so called ‘customer service’ and after 5 seconds of talking to them it becomes apparent that they’re reciting some flowchart of responses to sway away from actually cancelling anything. Wasn’t even 10 minutes after ordering and they told me that it’s been processed and too late to cancel until I receive the product and send it back.

    Save yourself the hastle guys. Gonna go with the cancelling my card method.

  55. Hi. Unfortunately I got done by the men’s health ad and ordered my shipment almost immediately!

    I will call them tomorrow to cancel. The claims were big but I didn’t think they weren’t pissible!

    Can you tell me what combo of supplements I should use to get similar resalts they claim? I want to build mussel fast and burn fat at the same time …

    1. Hey Ross,

      A great combination of supplements for you is Nitrocut and Testofuel. Nitrocut is a non-stimulant pre workout that gets you energized for your workout with a nitric oxide boost instead of stimulants. Testofuel is a natural testosterone booster that improves your overall energy and mood, increases lean muscle mass, and reduces body fat.

  56. Ordered the trial and then saw this a couple minutes later. Immediately called their customer service and canceled.

    Should have the shipping costs back to me in 3 to 5 business days. We’ll see what happens

  57. I ordered the two and they actually stole my card number and tried to use it to buy stuff states away from where I live. My bank cancelled my card for me when they saw I Try to purchase stuff in Illinois and it Pennsylvania within the same hour. not possible.

    None of the money went threw thank god. And I got the samples for free and they won’t be able to bill me.

    So they tried to scam me but I got the best of them. I haven’t used the product yet but I will and finish it off.

    But I cage fight and run in college and need something to help drop weight in the cage to make weight but stay strong and fast for track. Any suggestions.

    I weight 170 and I’m 5’11 and I drop to 145 for the cage with no supplements or problems.
    1. Hey John,

      I like Nitrocut as a pre workout, and it would suit your purposes really well. The energy comes from the NO boost, not CNS stimulants, so it’s totally safe, and really effective to boot.

  58. Hey Rob, I fell for this scam as well. I am already planning on cancelling my card after reading this.

    Should I be fine with just doing that, or should I cancel my memberships as well once they get here?
  59. I just received the maximum shred and extreme antler in the post. The extreme antler package was damaged and empty.

    Photo’s taken. I have tried calling the customer care number and cannot get through, just staying on hold for hours. Tried emailing to no avail.


    1. Hey Tom,
      You might want to consider contacting your bank. They should have a phone number that you can get through on, and may even do a conference call with you when you call them.


  60. Do you think max shred alone will cause me to test positive on a drug test? Was just asking because I had seen something like that when googled , but they were taking a couple other things and couldnt figure out what the cause was…please answer me back asap.

    1. Hey Jesse,

      Nope, the listed ingredients in Maximum Shred are Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Beta Alanine, Caffeine, and Taurine. None of these would make you pop on a drug test.

      They must have been talking about one of the other supplements.

  61. Dude you just saved my life! These freaking people are running such a huge scam and i sprinted right into it.

    I was looking up good work outs to go with the product and i ran into this post. I just got off the phone with them and i have to wait to recieve the product in mail and then call back so they can tell me when i can call back again to cancel and send it back.

    Thank you so much and will be a lot more careful for now on! Thanks.

  62. Hey Rob, my name is Beau I fell for the scam and ordered from Australia. I have been waiting 2 weeks for the products to arrive and they still haven’t and the numbers you provided don’t work here in Aus.

    I have cancelled my credit card and told my bank whats going on so I will never pay that full cost but how do I contact them to Cancel?
  63. Not a free trail as has been stated.I actually saw some results from the product and would have ordered again. I was however disappointed in the company for the lack of ethics so I will not be ordering again because of their backhanded methods.

  64. hi , just purchased these 2 products. will wait for them to turn up in the mail and cancel the memberships. should I be weary of anything? what should I tell them on the phone. If someone could email me with their efforts of trying to cancel these memberships let me know
    1. Hey Matt,
      Just tell them you want to cancel. Let them know that you weren’t ware that you were signing up for a free trial and that you don’t want to be billed.

      Unless, of course, you want to give them a try and see how they work.


  65. Hey Rob I was wondering if you could send me your free e book? you already did once and I appoligize my son got ahold of my phone and deleted it. It has been super helpful

    Thank you

    1. Hey Jason,

      I just sent it over to your email along with the bonuses. Glad it’s working out for you.

  66. Hey Rob I almost signed up an looking for something legitimate. I work out daily an was wondering with nitro cutt, an testfuel help me lose my belly, an chest fat?

    1. Hey David,
      Glad I caught you before ordering. If I were you, I would actually recommend you either stack Nitrocut along with a fat burner called Phen 375, or check out the Crazy Mass cutting stack. Either combo will help you with your goals.

      Also, sign up for my free get ripped ebook, it’s packed with tons of free info on diet and exercise to help you get the results faster.

  67. Hey im 5’8 190 pounds at work I walk 10 miles mon to friday (had the job for almost 2 months now) hit the gym 3 times a week …and still cant lose my extra fat. Any recommendations?

    Looking to lose fat and gain muscle mass. Currently only taking daily vitamins and fish and Flax seed pills.

    Any suggestions would be welcomed thanks.
    1. Hey Jose,

      Sounds like you might want to look at your diet as possibly the reason you’re not losing weight. Check out our Calorie Counter, input your information, and it will tell you how many calories a day you should be eating to reach your goals. Then sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got meal and workout plans to help keep you doing what you need to do. As for supplements, go with the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack. It covers all the bases for you, so you can focus on eating right, working out, and getting fit.

  68. Hello everyone,
    what is the number to reach customer service ? i cant find it and need to cancel right away.
  69. Hey I fell for the scam and got it but once a read all the reviews I called and they gave me a confirmation number and I’m supposed to send it back,,,,should I send it back and cancel my card as well to be safe
    1. Hey Alex,

      I can’t know for sure, but if they gave you a confirmation number and you send it back, you should be good. If it would make you more comfortable, call your credit card company and tell them not to accept any more charges from the company.

  70. I noticed in your ebook that forearms are not mentioned in your workout routine. What would you recommend for forearm exercises and what day should they be on.

    And what intervals should be in between the exercises.
    1. Hey Sameeh,
      Yeah you generally hit your forearms pretty well when your doing the other exercises, but if your looking for forearm specific training then I would recommend you do palms up and palms down wrist curls over a bench. Here’s a good demo of them on

      Palms down:

      Palms Up:

      I would do them either on your back or chest day.

  71. Thanks mate. I almost aigned up but thought I would look for reviews.

    I work for a mining company and get regular drug tests and am always looking for healthy yet fast acting products. So in a way I guess you potentially saved my job!

  72. Hi rob I’m 37 and 110kg
    I don’t go to the gym but have a heavy duty manual handling job and play sport so I train 2x per week and play Saturdays I’m just wondering if NITROCUT AND TESTOFUEL will help me lose my stomach and chest fat to get them tight and cut? Cheers

    1. Hey Matt,

      They will definitely help, but they would do a better job in conjunction with a regular workout routine. This is especially true of the Nitrocut, which is meant to be used as a pre workout to help you intensify your workouts, giving you better results. You might be better off taking the Testofuel with a fat burner, like Phen375. This way, it’s not so tied into your workout routine, so you can remain flexible and somewhat alternative in that.

  73. Please don’t order it. It’s a scam.

    They made me pay for both products at $170. I even called to cancel the products and they said that I need to return the products unless you finish 14 day-trial.

    And when I finally called on the 14th day, they said they can’t cancel the order because there’s a line on the contract that says “you need to cancel before the 12th days of 14 day-trial. I said “Bullshit!!!"
    Anyway, I scared them off with saying “I’m going to post this complaints on facebook and other review sites”.

    But I had to return the products and paid for the shipping.

    The product is just combination of caffeine and other nutrition. Please don’t waste your time and money.

  74. Hey,

    How you said that they keep billing from your credit card! How do you cancel that?

    If you know please tell me and I might be in a pickle hahaha.

    1. Hey Harley,

      Make sure you call both companies before the 14 day trial period expires. The number for Max Shred is 1-800-622-4871. for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-745-3010. Even if you’re past the trial period, call anyway to prevent any further charges.

  75. Hey guys, I just received my “free” samples! Only after I did some research and read your review did I start doubting this product!

    How do I go about contacting these people to cancel??
  76. Hey mate I am a very skinny guy looking to pack on some muscle and get stronger and toned what’s ur advice
    1. Hey Mick,

      Your timing couldn’t be better. I’m almost finished putting together an ebook about the best way to put on muscle weight. I’ll put you on the list to receive a copy when it’s ready to be sent out. In the mean time, some key points to remember: You have to eat a lot, making sure you get lots of complex carbs in the morning as well as plenty of protein throughout the day. Limit cardio. Lift heavy. And as for supplements, check out either the Crazy Mass Bulking Stack, or stack Nitrocut, Muscle Advance Creatine, and 100% Whey Gold Standard.

  77. Hey just a question I’m trying to gain muscle and abs as fast as possible. I have a Whey protein shake when I’m done each workout and usually on off days I don’t work out (workout 2-3times a week).

    Im 6’1 and 168 pounds. I have a slight stomach that needs toning and a chest that I need to tone (get bigger).

    Would you suggest Max Shred and Xtreme Antler or something else? Also what is the process if I do take it?

    Do i take it when Im done my work out, after Im done, during it? Please help.

    1. Hey Ronnie,

      Don’t go with these supplements. You may get a little benefit from them, but they’re nowhere near worth the price you pay and the hassle of getting out of it. I recommend you stick with the protein the way you’re using it now, and use Nitrocut as your pre workout supplement. On workout days, take it before you work out. On non-workout days, take it with breakfast or lunch. Alternatively, you can check out a product called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack, it works great for guys in your position. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got tons of tips and advice for eating right and working out along with some bonuses to help keep you on track.

  78. Rob, I just read both your article and the mens body one, I’m glad I checked this out. I’m 16 and I am overweight, although I know or at least feel that I have a good amount of muscle.

    I weight 195 and I want advice please. I want to lose the weight and get a nice body.

    1. Hey Kevin,

      At your age, you really don’t want to get involved with taking supplements. You’re still growing, and none of these formulations and very few individual ingredients have been tested on growing bodies. I’ve got a free “getting ripped” ebook you should sign up for. It’s got tons of advice and great meal and workout plans to help you get in shape. Use the plans in the book and take 100% Whey Gold Standard protein, and you’ll start seeing results. Let me know if you have any more questions.

  79. I am not obese but i have a stomach. I am six foot and weigh at 205lbs and I’m 22 year old male.

    Im trying to gain muscle, but also loose fat too; would you suggest using both Nitrocut and Phen375? What else would you suggest to me?

    1. Hey Billy,

      Check out either a product called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack, or alternatively a stack of Nitrocut and Phen375 would be right for you. I would also add a quality protein like 100% Whey Gold Standard. The three will help you get great results quickly and healthily. Another thing you can do is sign up for and use my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s packed with tips and advice for eating and working out to get in great shape.

  80. If I’m over weight can i take the nitrocut pre workout and how can i use it and as well the getting ripped… I’m new in all this but will like to change my lifestyle for somthing better and how or where can i get the ebook will really appreciate more info. Thanks

    1. Hey Quito,

      Yes, you can use Nitrocut when you’re overweight. I’d recommend a stack of Nitrocut as your pre workout and Phen375 for burning fat. The “getting ripped” ebook is also a great fit. If you follow the programs laid out in the book and take the supplements as directed, you’ll do great. Let me know if you have any more questions.

  81. Hey Rob,
    I’m thinking of ordering pro hormone. The company is Olympus Lab , the product is Epistan and Tren. Are they legit?

    What do you think?

    Thanks, Derek
  82. Hey Rob,
    The Supps I was looking at are prohormones, called Epistan and Tren by Olympus Lab. What do you think?

    1. Hey Derek,

      Thanks. I’ll look into them and send you an email when we get the reviews up.

  83. Thank you Rob, will keep that in mind and will mark my calendar.

    Is the number for Max shredder same with the deer antler? Im in Australia.

  84. Hi rob. I am a sucker and bought those supplements.

    I have one order number but the other never showed up. How do I go about canceling the subscription if that happened?

    1. Hey David,

      Make sure you call both companies before the 14 day trial period expires. The number for Max Shred is 1-800-622-4871. for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-745-3010.

  85. Hey Rob,
    Thanks for the article. Have you ever heard of Olympus Lab?

    Im trying to get back into shape. I workout at home and I want to start taking supps.

    Thanks buddy
    1. Hey Derek,

      I’m not really familiar with Olympus Lab, but if you tell me what product or products you’re thinking about, I’ll look into them and put up a review or reviews for you. In the meantime, if you’re looking for a great pre workout supplement, check out Nitrocut.

  86. Hey Rob,

    I came across your write up about this 2 products late. I already ordered and pay for the shipping of these two.

    So just to clarify all I need to do is to cancel it once I received the products or should I call my credit card company now to cancel?
    1. Hey Tony,

      Make sure you call and cancel before the 14 day trial is up, and you should be fine. They may or may not require you to send back the empty bottles.

      But I would keep an eye on your credit card bill just in case.

  87. Hi. I took max shred for a while along with deer antler. Expensive stuff. I can honestly say the maximum shred works. But you can get similar effective products for way less money. The caffeine is clean caffeine and doesn’t bother my anxiety like coffee does. It does give you energy to lift heavy and it does give you a good pump and helps boost your metabolism. But again I will say. ” you can get similar effective products for less money” lol. It’s a rip off for what you pay for it. But it does work for post workout

    Now the deer antler. I used it for two consecutive months and I don’t think it did anything for me. So honestly I would say, stay away from that as well. Thumbs up for max shred. But thumbs down for deer antler

    Rob has good advice. Get yourself a cheaper and more effective pre work out such as nitro cut and maybe get a good complex carb post workout beverage like vitargo s2. That way you aren’t wasting muscle. Any hard gainers like me out there should know one thing. Do compound lifts. Don’t bother with isolation until you’ve got a good base of overall strength. Download the strong lifts app 5 x 5 workout and start lifting. When I started the 5 x 5 I was only squatting 150 pounds. WEAK!! Lol now I’m squatting 250 pounds full squat and working up to 300 pounds. The bigger you get your muscles, the more you can feel them. The more you can feel them the more you can contract them for great gains and muscle pumps 🙂 Plus I’ve went from 155 pounds to 170 pounds while eating right and continuing progressive overload on my muscles. Working out is all about eating right, getting enough sleep and working out properly with good form.
      1. Hi Jane,

        Sign up for my free weight loss book. It’s got lots of tips and plans for eating and working out so you can lose weight. As for supplements, check out Instant Knockout. It’s a great fat burner.

  88. Hey Rob, thanks for the review on these products. I almost ordered them and came across your review.

    You saved me a huge headache thank you again. I tried downloading you get ripped E book and it would not let me is there any way to email a copy to me?

    1. Hey Jason,

      Glad we could help! Check your email.

      I just sent over the ebook and bonuses. Let me know if you have any more questions.

  89. Well, today I just got a call from my bank that someone tried to use my money at a restaurant. Guess who and where?

    The info gave me was Max Shred and it was in the United Kingdom plus it was today 8/11/2014 and I was still sleeping because it was only 7 in the morning. So I had to cancel my card and get a new one so that they cannot take out anymore of my funds.

    I am still glad that I was able to find this. Thanks for this site.

  90. Hey Rob,
    Im 17 years old about to be 18 im 5’11 and weigh about 210 lbs.Ive been trying to get muscles for about a year now.and i didn’t see the results i want.So I kinda gave up so now i want to start again is there any supplements or advice you recommend for me I would really appreciate it thanks.

    Ps.i have belly fat i would like to get rid off.
  91. Hey rob im wondering if there is anything i can do to loose my belly fat is hard gor me caue i gain pound to quick but i believe there is something but idk what i can conbine and take i want to get to my normal weigh am 5.6 188lb
    1. Hey Sebastian,

      First, I recommend that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got lots of great tips and advice for eating right and working out to get in shape. As for supplements, check out Nitrocut for your pre workout and Phen375 to burn fat and suppress your appetite.

  92. Hey Rob, had a question. I’m about 6 ft and I’m 19 years old..I’m looking for a few suplements to combine..I’ve been stuck at 145 and my metabolism is about the speed of a hobbits..second dinner doesn’t come fast enough..I run everyday and have played every sport..I just can’t gain muscle..I do situps crunches and pushups.

    I worked out in the gym for about a month and I gained nothing from it..same mass and muscle..I need to gain a significant amount to get ready for my college sports..any ideas?
    1. Hey Adam,

      Yeah, gaining is hard for some guys, but I have a few recommendations for you. First of all, keep eating a lot. Get a lot of complex carbs in the morning and plenty of protein throughout the day. Aim for as much as 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. As for working out, I’d get back to the gym and lift heavy. You’ll also have to limit of eliminate the cardio, so that means cutting out the running. As for supplements, use a bulking stack like the Crazy Mass Bulking Stack, or Nitrocut for your pre workout supplement. It’s got no stimulants, so it doesn’t suppress your appetite or increase your metabolism. Take Muscle Advance Creatine to pack on the muscle and 100% Whey Gold Standard to help you get the protein you want. One last recommendation is that you download my free “getting ripped ebook” for tons of great eating and working out advice. Just make sure you up the caloric intake and skip the recommended cardio. Let me know if you have any more questions.

    1. Hey T,

      You’re much too young to start taking supplements. Try doing strength building exercises using your body weight, like push ups, pull ups, chin ups, squats, and ab exercises.

      You can get pretty strong with a focuses program of these. Add in some biking, swimming, or jumping rope to round out your workouts with cardio.

  93. This company is probably the least professional company I have ever dealt with. Dealing with criminals is easier.

    The products don’t arrive and yet they continue to charge my credit card. Getting a refund or cancelling the the account was harder than finding hens with teeth.

    The call taker ‘Mark’ wouldn’t listen and refused to pass me over to a supervisor or manager. People would be best advised to stay away from this company.

    It is a scam.

    This is a company that will take your money and not provide a service and then blame any problems on the customer.
  94. Haha, I bought them with a prepaid credit card and had them delivered to one of the abandoned summer homes across the highway. They can try to bill me the card is a prepaid and all my information is fake.

    I run all my IP information through three proxy’s and the TOR network. I hate companies like this.

      1. thanks for the info rob. i just canceled my subscription to both. Email was sent and ill call for a double confirmation.

  95. But Does Using Max Shred And Xtreme Antler Really don’t work

    And i have a question does max shred and xtreme antler como on drug test?
    1. Hey David,

      From what I can tell of the ingredients, you’ll probably get some benefit from using these products, but not anything close to worth the cost of almost $200 a month. Generally speaking, good products don’t try to trick you into buying them using fine print that they know lots of customers won’t read.

      But no, they probably won’t show up on a drug test either.

  96. Hi Rob,
    It’s nice to see someone helping to point out the scammers. I used to work “customer service” for another POS company for a VERY short time.

    They canned me because I wouldn’t be a bully. There is one more thing I’d like to point out to your readers, that was made VERY clear to me on my 1st day training and unfortunately, personal experience.

    The 14 day trial period (ANY trial, ANY product) starts on the day you ORDER the product, not the day you RECEIVE it. That’s why more reputable companys will give you 30-60 day trials.

  97. Hey Rob.
    I agree there isn’t any negative affect to 1.5g per pound of body weight. Although if the actual need is less and there’s a little more room for carbs and/or fat the person may be more satisfied having a little more carbs and/or fat allowed.

    This may increase diet adherence as people will be able to eat a little more of the things they like, rather than shoveling more protein in beyond what is necessary for muscle building or retention. People tend to end up obsessing and then falling off their diet the less they are allowed to eat things they enjoy.

    So if more doesn’t provide any superior benefit and there’s a larger caloric allowance for those delicious carbs and fat, people tend to stick to it longer and more consistently. As previously stated, there isn’t any negative affect beyond possible adherence issues, but most would rather enjoy more carbs/fat if there is no superior benefit to more than 1g per pound.

    I would say some personal trial and error is best but just figured I’d give my opinion based on the peer reviewed research I’ve studied and the trial and error I’ve experienced. But I love that you got the truth out there about these crap supplements! 🙂 Cheers!

    1. Thanks Chris. I agree on all counts.

      The best diet is the one you stick to.

  98. Hey Rob.
    I agree these are a scam. I feel sorry for the people stuck paying a pretty penny for a crappy product.
    My real question to you: I see you suggesting 1.5g of protein per pound for people trying to gain weight. Studies haven’t showed any muscle building benefit beyond 1g per pound.

    Also with a hyper caloric intake the need for excess protein is even less as the presence of more carbs and fat further prevent muscle catobolism. When cutting (hypo caloric intake), with less carbs and fat present, the need for protein is greater than the need during bulking.

    So why suggest 1.5g per pound for people gaining weight? That is a relatively hard number to hit depending on the person’s weight.

    And the effects on a person’s wallet are even worse, needing even more protein supplement to hit said numbers. A 180 lb person would need to consume 270g protein.

    That’s very unnecessary. For future reference, a better recommendation would be to consume their target weight in grams of protein.

    So if that 180 lb person wanted to be 195-200 lbs, they would consume 195-200g protein. I used to think more was better, but studies show that’s not always the case.

    And from experience 1g per pound is plenty, especially in a hyper caloric state.
    1. Hey Chris,
      There are a lot of different opinions out there, and I agree with you that the 1.5 gram standard is tough to hit. And again, you’re right, I’ve used 1.5g while cutting and had great success. That said, I think the numbers in the studies are minimums, and I’ve discussed this with a lot of athletes that still believe in the 1.5 target. But perhaps I might start presenting a little more loosely, as a goal rather than a must hit.


  99. I need help!!! I want to cancel it but they sent the product to a different address should I call them to re-route the product and extent my trial then cancel it out later when I receive it so I can send it back

    1. Hey John,

      Give them a call and explain the situation. See what they say and ask them to send you an email confirmation of whatever way you decide to proceed.

  100. I just got them 2 day so I have no idea if they work I was reading all of the comments but I already had them in my possession
  101. I just ordered the max shred and deer antler and now have doubts about it, can I just keep the free trial and cancel the prescription please help
    1. Hey Steve,

      I’m pretty sure that if you keep the trial bottles, they’ll make you pay for them, though I’ve heard of them discounting the price. You’ll have to call to cancel the autobill anyway.

      While you’re on the phone, ask them what your options are. Just make sure that you get the autobill canceled.

  102. Hi I just porchased the max shred and antler spray, what eojld hsppen if I just cancel my credit card and keep the trial as soon as I recieve yhem in the mail?
    1. Hey Richard,

      I’m not sure how they’d find you, but I certainly can’t guarantee that they won’t.

  103. Hey I jst ordered like 10min ago.. n just read the reviews and don’t want it.. if I call right now and. Cancel the order would that be best

    1. Hey David,

      You can try, but I don’t think that works very often. My guess is that they won’t stop the order from going out, and they’ll make you send it back. It also seems that guys have lots of different experiences, depending who you get at the customer service number.

      Either way, give it a try. If it doesn’t work this time, call them as soon as you get the products and cancel then.


      1. hi i ordered this stuff but did a review after silly me! found this page, so canceled the trial straight up took a bit of convincing but got it done just going to watch my credit card for any bills might end up cancelling it to be sure .
  104. Hey, so I was unfortunately dumb enough to order the maximum shred and deer antler. After ordering and poking around on the internet, I found that it was a complete scam and canceled my order.

    My card was not charged and I was in the 14 day period, despite the best efforts of the customer service to con me into waiting. However since I already opened the bottles, and took some, and upon the reading the terms and conditions on the maximum shred website, I kept some of the pills.

    Obviously i wont be completely ripped in 2 weeks as the website claims, but is it safe/healthy or even slightly beneficial to take it?
    1. Hey Max,

      As far as I can tell, they’re safe and probably minimally effective. I would go ahead and take them if I were you. When you’re ready for something legit, check out Nitrocut.

  105. If i am to cancel my credit card without returning the products, do you think that may cause some issues with the company? Just wondering.

    1. Hey Kevin,

      All the different free trial companies have slightly different terms they use. I’m not sure what they would do.

      I would try calling them if I were you.

  106. Hey Rob,
    I use Epiq Rush for my pre-work out, heard anything on that or would you still go with nitrocut? And could you take Phen375 with Epiq?

    Will def. be downloading that get ripped e-book.
    1. Hey Rick,
      I haven’t looked closely at Epiq Rush yet, but if you give me a couple weeks, I’ll shoot you an email when I get a review up. I took a quick look, and my first response is that I wouldn’t take it with Phen375 because of the caffeine. I’ll let you know when I have more on Epiq Rush.

  107. Hey, ordered this the other day, haven’t received anything yet. If I cancel my master card can they still bill me for this product or will they just not send it?

    1. Hey Sean,
      I’m not positive, but my guess is that if you ordered it a few days ago, they’ve already charged you for shipping and sent out the product. The best thing to do now is call wait to receive the product, then call to cancel further charges.

      If they give you a problem or you can’t reach them, that’s when you’ll want to think about canceling your card. It couldn’t hurt to try calling them now to cancel the original shipment.

      I just suspect that it’s probably too late.

  108. I called the max shred number to cancel and the gave me a confirmation number for both the max shred and the antler spray. Do I stil need to call the antler spray number to cancel again even though they told me both were cancelled?

    1. Hey Josh,

      If they told you they canceled both, then they probably did. On the other hand, I understand and appreciate your reluctance to trust them.

      I’d give them a call just in case and refer them to your confirmation number.

    1. Hey Joaquim,

      That shouldn’t be a problem. They want you to try it, so they usually accept opened bottles as long as they’re on time.

  109. Rob,
    I have a multitude of dilemmas here first I am 6’2 & weigh 145 #’s and have a extremely hi metabolism. 2nd my body is really weak and my energy is lacking from a long time addiction to pain meds which I have now quit. 3rd I have limited funds to purchase a lot of the supplements if what I need will cost a lot. My goal is to get back to my original weight of 185 but I would like to try and get to maybe 200 or relatively close.

    I want to be stronger along with looking the part. The one thing I do have in my favor is one hell of a work ethic bc I know that this will not happen overnight.

    My ?’s are what should I do to start the process of getting my weight up, building my energy as well as libido which my wife is driving me crazy over(lol), adding muscle mass while increasing my strength and lastly keeping all of these once I’ve obtained them.
    1. Hey William,

      The first thing you should do is downlaod my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got tons of tips and advice regarding dieting and working out to get in great shape. Since you’re trying to put on weight, you’ll need to focus on a few specific things. Eat a lot – lots of complex carbs in the morning and protein throughout the day. Try for 1.5 grams of protein for pound of your body weight each day. When it comes to working out, limit or eliminate cardio, and lift heavy. As for supplements, combine a pre workout called Nitrocut with Creatine from Muscle Advance. Nitrocut is great in your case because it has no stimulants so it doesn’t suppress your appetite and also because it boosts nitric oxide which is great for your sex life. Muscle Advance Creatine helps by getting your muscles working at max capacity so you lift more and gain more muscle. That should get you started. Let me know if you have more questions.

  110. I had ordered both Maximum Shred and Antler and just got them today. Fortunately I came across this page so I called and cancelled everything and got the RMA numbers for both products.

    Seeing as they canceled it already should I even ship the products back?
    1. Hey Joaquim,

      I would send them back if I were you. A lot of these companies will try anything to not refund your money.

      Don’t give them a reason. By giving you the RMA numbers, they were letting you know that they want the bottles returned.

  111. suggestion why would any of you order something online with out looking over what your ordering you should always read at least the 1st 2 paragraphs of t&c on any website your putting in cc details i mean come one don’t be and idiot and these things would not happen to you
  112. Hey Rob,
    I want to get back into shape and I’m tired of all these scam sites and promos. I am currently 5’9″, 210lbs and 24 yrs old.

    I don’t have a lot of time being a single father and full time student with the odd job on the side to go to the gym everyday. What could you suggest for someone who has an extreme schedule?

    I’d prefer to work out from home.
    1. Hey Taylor,

      I’m impressed that you’re trying to find the time. You may want to pick up a used bench and a few weights on Craig’s List or someplace similar. Then sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook and you can do most of the exercises at home with just that equipment. That way you can fit in a workout whenever you have time. As for supplements, a pre workout like Nitrocut will do wonders for giving you the energy you need to get the most out of the workouts you can manage to fit in.

  113. Is there a chance that if i call now (since i haven’t received my products) and cancel it, that the products will not be sent to me and I wont have to worry about it anymore?
    1. Hey Kevin,

      Depending on when you ordered it I suppose there’s a chance, but honestly I’d be surprised if they canceled the shipment. They usually go out the same or next day.

      Give it a try, but if it doesn’t work out, just make sure to call as soon as you get the product.

    2. Hey Kevin, im just going through this myself. I am so angry at how crap this company really is!! I tried emailing and ringing them about 1 hour after ordering to cancel it being sent.

      Believe it or not they still sent it!! They will not give you any decent reply other than the email to say its been shipped!!! Oh yeah another thing if your ringing from abroad (Australia in my case) dial 0011 before the number……..initially it was telling me that the number was disconnected.

      When i finally got through I spoke to a complete dumb ass arrogant b***h that did not want to listen to me! I told her how i am severly allergic to caffeine (makes me almost stop breathing) which is contained in the shred and the xtreme antler is illegal in the sport i train (boxing).

      The lady told me just to ‘try it’ and see how i feel and offered it to me for half price!!! Eventually, she told me to hold for a couple of mins whilst she got me my ref number to post the products back.

      I checked my email and saw they had emailed it instead………they put you on hold on purpose to charge you more for the phonebill……… the end I just hung up! An absolute waste of time and money!

      I wish I could seriously do some damage to these scammers………just dont know how!
  114. I ordered the trial of both max shred and deer antler and want to cancel my subscription,does anyone know the specific process in having to send it back,I really don’t want to be charged all that money
    1. Hey Kevin,
      Call the customer service numbers to cancel any future charges. The Max Shred number is 1-800-622-4871 and the Xtreme Antler number is 1-800-635-5652. Be prepared for them to try to convince you to pay half price or something similar. Don’t fall for it.

      Hang tough and you should get a full refund provided you take care of it in time.

      1. Thank you.
        And I was also wondering if when you call to cancel the trial subscription,do they cancel it as soon as you call? or when they receive to returned package?

        1. Hey Kevin,

          It depends. Some of them make you send it back and some don’t.

          I’m not sure about these two. Make sure you get a clear answer when you call.

          They’re tricky.

  115. Don’t get Maximum Shred or Xtreme Antler. The company is a ghetto credit fraud company with shitty marketing gimmicks.

    I found it through facebook and decided to try it cause it said free trial. However I didn’t pay attention to 14 days instead of the bottle being a 30 day supply.

    They sent me the bottle but I called to cancel because on the bottom of the page it said they will charge you 80 bucks for each one. The lady got nasty and tried to sell me the bottles for half price I said no.

    Then she told me I need a RMA number and to get a tracking number. However they ship you both products in one package but when you return it you have to send each item in 2 different packages.

    That pissed me off and I swore at the woman for working for such a shit bag company. So since I have a 14 day trial and its 3 pills a day I am canceling my credit card number tomorrow and having them issue a new number.

    Then I am taking 42 pills out of the 30 days supply which should leave 48 pills.Open the bottles so they cant legally resell them. Also the ingredients suck, its mostly caffeine pills Open the deer antler package and spray the heck out of your mouth for a week till half of it is gone.

    I am sending it back and writing this letter. More embarrassed for being so damn gullible.

  116. I’m a 43 yr old construction worker 6’2 300+lbs I try to get to the gym 3 to 4 times a week but it’s hard to maintain that schedule with the work that I do. I don’t feel as strong as I use to , my energy is low I try to eat right.

    I guess I’m just looking for a little help to loss weight and feel better any suggestions?
    1. Hey Gayland,

      It can be really hard to get started with a fitness program. One thing that helps a lot is to have a plan in place that’s fairly easy to stick to. Then once you start seeing results, those results give you motivation to keep going. First thing, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got a workout and eating plan that’s flexible yet easy to follow. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. Let me know if you have any more questions.

    2. Hi There. ONE of the most common cause of not being able to lose weight and being tired and having no energy is the presence of a condition called obstructive sleep apnea.

      I would highly recommend you get this checked out by your local physician. You will be surprised.

      If you have it let me know and I will guide you how to treat it.
  117. Hi Rob,

    I stand at 170cm, at a weight of 77kg.
    Im looking for some killer workouts that will help me gain the muscle I want in my upper body. And what sort of whey protein that could get me quick results.

    I work out 4 times a week.

    Any ideas? thanks.

  118. How stupid could I have been! I thought I’d researched it but clearly not enough.

    It was only when I ordered and went through the payment part that I noticed the small print and the terms and conditions. I have emailed them both about cancelling the payment but still no reply!!!

    I also called the numbers (from Australia) and I’m getting the message that both numbers have been disconnected!!!! I will contact the bank too but What should I do??

    I’m training in boxing at the mo, im 83kg and am aiming for 75kg. I have been eating healthily and avoiding sweets etc but the weight just will not shift………Been training real solid too!

    Rob, I know you mentioned some products earlier but will these get me to lose this amount of weight in 5 weeks!?! Thanks mate, you are a life saver 😉

    1. Hey Pete,
      Yeah, these companies can be a real pain to deal with. Definitely call your bank and tell them you don’t want the charges if they do charge you. I recommend you use Nitrocut as your pre workout and Phen375 as your fat burner. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for workout and diet help to get you to your goals faster.

  119. Hey Rob,
    It’s nice to know that someone out there is looking out for people. There are so many scams online that sometimes I am unsure what to believe lol.

    Thanks for doing the research on all these products. Your website has given me priceless guidance.

    Hope all is well and thanks again.

  120. Hey , I’m 19 years old I weigh about 134 lbs . I playcollege soccer.

    I’ve been trying to gain weight but Due to the high intensity cardio that would do it’s been impossible for me to do so. I eat a lot everyday and also take Serious Mass by Optimum Nutrition .

    I workout about 3-4 times a week. Any suggestions ?

    1. Hey Lucas,
      When it comes down to it, you have to take in more calories than you use, and in order for the weight to be muscle weight, you’ve got to work out. Sometimes simplifying it to those terms helps. Try to eat real food about 6 times a day, and take your gainer on top of that. I usually recommend that you limit cardio, but that would be hard for you to do. When you lift, lift heavy. As for supplements, take Muscle Advance Creatine to try to pack on the muscle. In the end, you may have to weight till you no longer play competitive soccer before you can start bulking up.

  121. I actually filled in the information. Because just like you said, Who doesn’t like free stuff.

    Once it asked for credit card info however I realized that my suspicion that it was a scam was probably true. So i did not proceed and closed out of the page.

    When I got home the company actually called me trying to convince me to buy the product and gave me an “even better deal”. Usually when a company tries to give you a better deal on something that is free, its a scam. (Red Flag #4 haha).

    This was the only legitimate review I found online and confirmed my decision to avoid the product. Thank You.

    I’ve been working out around 3-5 days a week since october.

    Im seeing pretty decent results but I know they could be better. Im currently using Cellulor C4 as a pre workout and HydroBuilder as a post workout.

    Any other suggestions?
    1. Hey RJ,

      Sounds like you’re doing pretty well. I recommend you add Muscle Advance Creatine to take your lifting to a new level. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for diet and workout ideas. I’ve also recently added some bonuses including a workout log, sample meal plans, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat” to the package.

  122. So unfortunately i didn’t get to this page on time, i ordered this product about 2 days ago now. It said it’ll be shipped in by june 6th.

    Before this headache begins for me, would you just recommend for me to call the companies tell them to cancel the order and hopefully it’ll stop that payment of $189?
    1. Hey Dennis,
      Yep, I would call them as soon as possible to make sure the cancellation process gets started in time. They may tell you to call back after you receive the product, but I’d say it’s worth trying to stop it right away if you can.

      Max Shred’s number is 1-800-622-4871 and Xtreme Antler is 1-800-745-3010.

  123. I was just about to order this stuff until it asked me to pay for shipping and decided to read the fine print lol .. So I’m glad I came across this thread right after seeing the 14 day disclaimer .

    But I wanted you hear your opinion on what some one like my self needs to do I’m in my early 30’s and I want to start working out again and mostly just tone the fat I have now I’m at 195lbs .. What’s your thoughts ?

    1. Hey Ted,

      Glad you found us in time. Check out Nitrocut. It’s a great pre workout with no stimulants and no auto-billing programs. You’ll also want to download my free “get ripped” ebook full of workout and meal plans to help you reach your goals. I’ve also just added some bonuses including sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.”

  124. So the Phen375 wouldn’t be a good idea to get rid of that extra 7kg?

    Contrary to a lot of women, I have no problem getting bulkier muscles 🙂
    1. Hey Jennifer,

      Phen375 would work too. I just recommended the other two because they’re more workout related which seemed to suit you more. But yep, if you want to go with a fat burner, I’d definitely choose Phen375

  125. It was really good that I saw your article before ordering those… not gonna go there now…

    I notice most of your responses are to men. I am a 32yo woman 5’7″ and 67kg. I find it very difficult to build real muscle as my frame has always been skinny, but some enforced inactivity has loaded 7kg of unwanted weight on my midsection and butt.

    Also, both muscle energy recovery and repairs take twice as long as my male AND female friends doing harder workouts.

    Any recommendations for supplements and the like for weight training (not sure as a woman it’s a great idea to mess around with my testosterone which is currently middle normal)…

    P.S I’m very dairy intolerant and have had to stop using 100% Gold Standard Whey. Trialed Sunwarrior Rice protein and gag every time.

    Nasty stuff.
    1. Hey Jennifer,

      Go with Nitrocut and Muscle Advance Creatine. Some women think creatine will make them too bulky, but it’s not the creatine, it’s the diet and workout routine you use. As far as protein goes, look into SAN Rawfusion. I don’t know much about it, but I’ve heard it’s the best tasting vegan protein out there.

  126. Hi Rob

    I too, like many posters here, seem trapped by the recurring billing from this company. I have sent them a couple of emails (as I am in Australia – calling is not an option) requesting them cancel my order but they have not answered a single email.

    Any pointers on how to get them to cancel the order?


    1. Hey Simon,
      I would suggest you contact your credit card company directly and see what they have to say.

      1. Thanks Rob. The good part about all the emails is that I have a good trail showing attempted contact which might sway the credit card company.

        1. I’m in Australia and called them direct on 02 6064 2049. After having the lady trying to convince to continue with the trial (and even trying to get me to purchase other products!) she eventually let me cancel.

          Then gave me all the necessary details to do so. I haven’t received my product yet but will be returning it straight away.

          You need to get an RMA number, write it on the package, and then return it to their address.

          The lady also mentioned getting a tracking number for it in case it gets lost in the mail. Not sure if that’s necessary though.

  127. wish i would have seen this when i tried that “free trial” when i was told i had 30 days it turned out that it was 14 and after being a day late they charged out full for the product they gave me and after i tried getting a refund they could only give me 50% and it was in american when i am canadian also on top of everything i managed to cancel the xtreme antler but now have to send it back and pay for shipping
  128. Well that was a close one! Ordered that junk after getting hyped up in the ad.

    I did my homework a little late (not smart) but I’m glad I did it. Can’t thank you enough for this page!

    Who knows how much ass pain you just saved me, and money!
  129. I ordered it on Friday…Then I started researching about it further today and saw this review. I tried to get a return merchandise authorization today when I called the company that sales this stuff and they said I have to wait to actually receive it before they can do the RMA.

    Nevertheless, once I get the RMA and send it back, what type of supplements would you recommend to drop weight?

    I’m 254 and trying to get to 185 which was my weight in when I was in the military 9 years ago. I’ve been doing calorie counting since January with a mixture of cutting out carbs and have only dropped 20lbs. I was injured in a car accident a year and half ago so I can’t run do some injuries sustained in one of my legs,but I can walk due to my doctor restrictions.

    I can lift weights but it has to be light do to some muscle spasms i get in my upper back and neck.
    1. Hey Nick

      Sorry to hear about your accident, but I’m glad you found us before getting caught up in monthly payments. Go with a pre workout called Nitrocut, and stack it with a fat burner called Phen375. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips on working out and eating right to get in shape. The workouts should be fine for you, just choose a weight you’re comfortable with. I’ve also recently added a few bonuses along with the book that can help keep you on track.

      Let me know if you have any other questions.
  130. Max shred like 99% of these supplement is a scam

    please dont get caught people as i did. nothing is free
  131. Hi thanks for your page, found it relatively helpful, I got both products last December, I got them and the called them and sorted it over the phone and then cancelled the credit card transaction, it’s been fine, I haven’t taken the product yet tho because I’m in the military in the uk and I’m not sure wether it will show up on a compulsory drug test, I’m wondering if u could enlighten me? Thanks x

    1. Hey Lee,
      These products don’t list their ingredients so I can’t know for sure. You’d have to check with the company.

      Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.

  132. Hey rob i weight 170 pounds my goal is to get to 215 pounds and i want to stack on lean mass but i also what that nice defined cut look as well and as quick as i can and i dont have the energy or libido i use to have. What would you recommend for me?

    1. Hey Cliff,
      If you haven’t already, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s full of workout and diet tips for getting big and ripped. I’ve also added some bonuses help you along. If you want to gain weight, you’ll have to eat more. Try adding 500 calories a day or more to your current diet, and make sure you get enough protein. The rule of thumb for gaining is 1.5 grams a day for every pound of your body weight. That’s about 250 grams a day for you. 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition will help you make that goal. As for supplements, stack pre workout Nitrocut with Creatine from Muscle Advance. Then lift heavy and limit cardio. Follow this plan and you’ll put on the weight pretty quick.

  133. Hey I was looking into getting back into the gym and really trying to find the best product availble that’s not steroids to produce muscle and give me more energy throughout my day.! I also read that the max shred or x.antler is a detox.

    Can a detox b helpful in my situation ? What would u recommend for me?

    1. Hey Tim,

      I would stay away from both Max Shred and Xtreme Antler. They exist mainly to lighten your wallet with their free trial scams. You should read my article about these kinds of products. In your case, go with a stack of Nitrocut for your pre workout and Muscle Advance Creatine to help you pack on the muscle. Also, if you haven’t already, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for all kinds of tips and help with workouts and meals. I’ve also recently added several bonuses that can help keep you on track.

  134. Hey rob I have a few questions will “phen375” burn fat from any part of your body?. Also is it safe to take “Phen375” & Nitrocut together.

    How do I know when to take them, & how many to take? Plus when you said when i reach my weight goal trade “Phen375” out for “Muscle advanced creatine” do I still need nitrocut aslo?

    Last question do you know a good place that is cheap to get a trainer or just a cheap gym membership in general? Thanks rob.

    1. Hey Juan,

      Phen375 helps burn fat all over your body. You can’t really pick and choose where you’ll lose fat. Stacking Phen375 with Nitrocut is both safe and effective. You’ll take 1 Phen375 before breakfast and another before lunch. And take 2-4 Nitrocut capsules before workouts or before breakfast of lunch on non-workout days. When you’ve lost the weight you want to lose, you’ll drop the Phen375, keep the Nitrocut, and add the Musle Advance Creatine. You’ll have to look around the area you live for your best gym options. I don’t really have a recommendation for you on that. Let

  135. After reading your review on these 2 products I feel like an idiot as I have ordered the stuff…you are so right as they have bill my visa over $180 &as yet I have not received my starter kit ….they send you a tracking number via ….its been over a month now and I still haven’t received any product from them. ?.I have sent an email to them asking please explain as of yesterday. ?..they have a choice to give me my money back or I’ll be seeking advice on a professional note….starting with my banking Institute regarding credit card fraud….taking money and not providing, I know for a fact this can be done.this is a warning to anyone who wants to know about this group of people, at this point any positive help regarding this matter on the scam regarding maximum shred &xtreme antler would be appreciated.
    1. Hey Jason,

      So sorry you have to deal with this. If they don’t refund your money, get in touch with your bank card and see if there’s anything they can do to help.

      Definitely make sure you get all future payments stopped.

  136. I actually got two bottles today and will cancel tomorrow due to the “14 day fine print” they are trying to trick us with. Do you believe these products are dangerous to our health or are they fine to actually use but just dont expect any good results? please answer asap thanks

    1. Hey Jay,
      That’s a great question. As far as I know and as far as I’ve heard, there’s nothing dangerous about these products and the ones like them. Just, as you say, don’t expect much from them. So go ahead and take them until their gone, and when you’re ready, check out my review for a better option, Nitrocut.

  137. Did anyone that ordered the max shred and xtreme antler get charged for the free trial after cancelling their subscription and sending the bottles back like they “so politely ask you”?
  138. I just wanted to thank you Rob, for posting this. This was the only review I could find on this false product.

    I ordered it about a week ago, and I got it in the mail excited. After the workout it made me feel so sick and queasy every time.

    I called them after I read what you had put up. You are a legend you would never lie to us!

    It was like pulling fingernails out getting it canceled, but I got some good Pre-workout supplements now thanks to you and a good weigh protein as well. Thank you again, you really did help me out

    1. Thanks Robbie,
      Glad we could help you out. There are definitely scammers out there, and when we find them, we let you know.

      Make sure you tell your friends about us and like us on Facebook. And keep in touch.

  139. Hey, I just came across this, and as you stated I came across it a little to late.
    My boyfriend decided to order this yesterday, and I’m a little in sure has what the next step. We are looking to cancel the order and want to make ire they do not take any further money.

    If you have any suggestions i would really appriciate the help.
    Thanks you.
  140. im 5.11″ 198 pounds… ive been trying to lean out, and get ripped. it just never seems to work out, i dont really take supplements, or proteins. i just made an order on this product yesterday but im sure gonna cancel now that i saw ur page.. man what can i take to get the results i need tho???
    1. Hey Lorenzo,
      I’m glad you found us in time. I have a couple things that can help you out. First of all, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for all sorts of diet and workout help. I’ve recently added a few bonuses to the package for helping to keep you on track. As for supplements, it sounds like Nitrocut is what you’re looking for.

  141. Hey Rob I am 19 years old. I weigh 232 pounds as of today.

    I would like to know a site that would be perfect for me to lose weight first, then gain muscle quickly. Thanks Rob

    1. Hey,

      The first thing you need to do is get your diet and exercise routines in order. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips and plans there. I’ve also included a few bonuses to help you stick with the program. As for supplements, stack the fat burner Phen375 with the pre workout Nitrocut. When you’re close to your weight loss goal, trade out the Phen375 for Muscle Advance Creatine for gaining muscle.

  142. Hey Rob ive been using this product for about 2 weeks and ive gotten results from it and i feel that its been very helpful but after reading this i dont really know what to think should i keep going? i’m already going to cancel my trial because of the costs is too high but should i switch to this nitrocut and phen 375?
    1. Hey Josh,

      I’m glad you found us so you don’t get caught up in an expensive monthly subscription. I definitely recommend Nitrocut over these for pre workout. And if you have significant weight to lose, Phen375 is the best fat burner. If you’re just looking for added muscle tone and growth, stack TestoFuel with your Nitrocut instead.

  143. Hello just wanted to say that I ordered the max shred, extreme antler, and night mass trials. They are a complete rip off!

    They do not work and the company gave me a hassle when canceling during my trial period… my cr.card is cancelled with a new one on the way even though I did get a confirmation email of cancellation. But just wanted to give you another heads up that the same reviews from the ordering site are exactly the same as a new site for Nitro Extreme and a supposed T booster that I unfortunately cannot remember the name of…. save your money and go to GNC to get your supplements….

    1. Hey Tony,

      Thanks for the heads up, and I’m glad to hear you got away without losing any serious money. It’s pretty ridiculous that you had to cancel your credit card, but better safe than sorry! If you’re still looking for a pre workout and a testosterone booster, check out Nitrocut and TestoFuel. They’re both sold online, but neither has auto-billing policies.

    2. Hie Rob. I ordered max shred also.

      It contains caffeine, 60 mg per capsule. Something they don’t mention on the ad.

      Recommended 2-3 caps per day which adds up to 120-180 mg of caffeine (about 3 cups of coffee). Yikes is all I have to say to that.

      Caffeine I thought has been known to dehydrate the body? One capsule also contains: Taurine 200 mg, beta-Alanine 200 mg, L-arginine Alphaketo-Glutarate 400 mg.

      The Extreme Antler is IGF-1, which is a banned substance in all major sports and most collegiate as you mentioned, even though it is an all natural product. btw just phoned now to cancel my trial, they tried to talk me into keeping it going, then they tried to upsell another product to me. Red flag for sure.

  144. Hey Rob,

    I’m a 19 year old college student that just can not put on weight. I have been lifting properly for the past 5 years yet struggle to add any size.

    I have the type of body where if I did nothing but eat, I would still probably lose weight. As a result I have not found any success by using protein supplements.

    What do you suggest to increase mass?
    1. Hey Tyler,

      I have a few things that’ll help. You need to eat. a. lot. Eat about 6 balanced meals a day and snack in between if you can. Get lots of complex carbs in the morning and make sure you eat enough protein. You want to get about 1.5 grams for every pound of your weight. Make sure you lift heavy and limit your cardio to nothing or next to nothing. Download my free “get ripped” ebook full of eating and workout tips and plans. I’ve also included a few bonuses with the book: sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.” When it comes to supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a creatine supplement called Muscle Advance, and add in a protein supplement. Go with 100% Whey Gold Standard. It’s effective and tastes amazing!

      Go with this plan and you’ll see some gains.

  145. Hey Rob, I’m 6’2″ 160 lbs and I am looking to gain lean muscle. I’m pretty lanky and I have a high metabolism.

    I find that I do not have good muscle endurance when working out, but cardiovascularly I am not too bad. What would you suggest?

    1. Hey Alex,

      I have three suggestions for you. 1 – Use a pre workout called Nitrocut. It will help with your overall energy and stamina for your workouts. 2 – Use Muscle Advance Creatine to give you that muscle energy. You’ll be doing more reps at heavier weights and you’ll definitely see the results. 3 – Add a protein shake to your diet for building muscle and putting on weight. Go with 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition. It works great and the taste is phenomenal.
      You’ll also want to eat a lot, like 6 or more times a day and limit your cardio.

      Hope this helps!

  146. I recently got sucked into this scam, I have found that the max shred does give me a great deal of energy, but if there are better supplements I will contact the company as soon as possible and cancel my order. Would cancelling my credit card help?

    1. Hey Nathan,

      There are definitely better supplements out there, and you can get most of them cheaper than these. If you want a pre workout, go with Nitrocut. For boosting testosterone, you’ll want Testo Fuel. I would contact the company as soon as possible to cancel before you get charged again. If you can’t reach the company or don’t get a satisfactory resolution from them, cancelling you’re credit card would do the trick.

  147. Hey Rob.
    Im 24 weighing around 70kgs being 5’8.

    I just want to have a flat abdomen and shaped & lean muscled chest and biceps.

    1. I used to weigh 91kgs 4 years back and i lost 20kgs in a year by doing cardio. For the last 3years, i have this really loose belly fat(many say its my extra skin as i was fat before).

    I also have some side fat around my waist which i want to get rid of. Could you please recommend me how i could get rid both of these and have a straight flat tummy?

    2. Also when I workout on my muscles and chest, I do not get results. They are not growing nor coming in shape.

    While working out i really do not get much energy. I am taking the “maximuscle high protein promax” which says it supports lean muscle growth.

    I feel its not helping. Could you recommend me any supplement which would help me getting shaped & lean muscled chest and biceps?

    Should i continue maximuscle?
    1. Hey Sadnan,

      For both of your concerns, the first thing I recommend is that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It walks you through workout and meal plans that will help you reach all your goals. I’ve also just added bonuses including sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.”

      To lose the extra fat, try a fat burner called Phen375 along with the workout plan in the book. For your trouble packing on muscle, go with a stack of a pre workout called Nitrocut and a creatine supplement called Muscle Advance. Nitrocut will help with energy for your workouts and Muscle Advance will allow your muscles to work at their max so you can build muscle. Go ahead and keep taking your protein as well. You need that for weight loss an muscle building.

      Let me know if you have any more questions.

  148. Hi Rob, I’m 24, 5’9 150lbs. I’m looking to put on some lean muscle mass to look more toned. I’m skinny and lanky and want to add some definition.

    Not sure was supplements I should use.
  149. Hi I’m 26 6 ft 190lbs I want to build a little bit of muscle and get rid of my belly fat and basically get more defined and ripped rather than get big! What should I try?

    1. Hey Johno,

      Since diet and working out are the most important factors in getting ripped, you should sign up for my free “get ripped” ebook with tons of advice in those areas. As for supplements, go with a preworkout called Nitrocut. And if you really want to get rid of that belly fat fast, stack in a fat burner called Phen375 for a while.

  150. Hi… i want cancel both products but i can’t find numeber in uk. I call them before to ask about my delivery and now i don’t see numeber any where.

    Can you help me with this?

    1. Hey Arek,

      Here is their contact info to cancel:

      Max Shred – 1-800-622-4871

      Xtreme Antler – 1-800-635-5652

      Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

    1. Hey Darryl,
      First off you’ll need to increase your caloric intake as well as limit the amount of cardio your doing. As far as supplements, I would recommend you stack Nitrocut along with Muscle Advance Creatine. Check out my reviews below:

      Nitrocut –

      Muscle Advance Creatine –

  151. I ordered both products and now I need help canceling my order I received both a couple of days ago but I’d rather not keep them. I tried to cancel the next day but the guy just gave me the runaround.

    Can you help me there is no way I can afford this.
    1. Hey Charles,
      Here is their contact info to cancel:

      Max Shred – 1-800-622-4871

      Xtreme Antler – 1-800-635-5652

      Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

  152. Hey rob, I’m 21 years old, 5’10 170 pounds and 9.7% body fat. currently attempting to shred off my stomach fat. I’ve been working out 6 days a week for the past 2 months.

    I’ve lost most of my stomach fat but the abs are still hidden. I try to cut carbs before sleep as much as possible, and sleep on protein shakes(was recommended by a friend). Was wondering what you would suggest.

    Not wanting to buy any fat burners as of now. Thanks,

  153. Hey, Thank You so much I’m glad I read this review before I went on my way to ordering the 2 products. I have been cutting down on my heavy eating a lot and lost 18kg from 115kg but shredding is the hard part!

    I just need to know if your suggestions are solid. And how it is used I have just turned 20yo and I want to get shredded for footy season, losing weight has also taken my strength and muscle.

    The last thing I want is an injury that would take me out of the season.

    Keep doing what your doing brother

    1. Hey Wayne,

      Glad I could help!

      Yeah Nitrocut and Phen375 would be the best supplements for you to take if you’re looking to get shredded, check out my reviews here if you haven’t already seen them:

      Nitrocut –

      Phen375 –

      Also make sure you sign up for my free “Get Ripped” ebook, it’s perfect for guys like you who are looking to get in shape quick!

  154. Hi my name is Angel. I am 6’2 at around 320 at age 21. This is serious enough and I have always had weight issues but now I am getting married in 120. What do I need to take and do to shed weight.

    1. Hey Angel,
      Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. First of all, you’ll need to change your diet and workout habits. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips about those two factors. I’ve just added a few bonuses too. You’ll get a workout log, some sample meal plans, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat” to help you out.
      As for supplements, stack a fat burner called Phen375 with a pre workout called Nitrocut. Stick with your program and the weight will come off! Good luck and let me know if there’s anything else I can help you with.

  155. Hey rob

    Ive been reading all the comments on top and I want to know what you would recommend for me. Im 22 years old 5’7 I weigh 245.. I work in construction and go maybe to the gyn abouy 2 to 3 time a week..

    I want to lose 40 pounds between these 2 to 3 months do you think thats possible? And how?

    1. Hey Alex,
      I’d say your goals are a little aggressive, but not totally unreachable. First of all, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of diet and workout strategies to use as the core of your program. I’ve recently added 3 bonuses to the package, including a big list of foods you can eat, a sample meal plan, and a workout log. If significant weight loss is your primary goal, make sure you make time for plenty of cardio. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. This combination will get you started on the right track.

  156. Hey rob,

    Im 35 about to be 36 5,9 and 240 . I was @ 280+ and just lost the 40 pounds over the last year through mostly diet and food changes .

    Im about to start really working out . Been hard due to my work hours are usually 60 hours a week and mostly the noc ( night shift ) .

    Any recommendations on what would be a good supplement to help with my workouts , also keeping in mind im type 2 diabetic .
    1. Hey Preston,
      Great job so far, and keep up the great work. You’re definitely making the right move by stepping up your workout game. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of diet and workout strategies. I’ve just added 3 bonuses including a big list of foods you can eat, a workout log, and a sample meal plan. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. But because of your medical condition, check with your doctor to make sure these would be okay for you.

  157. Hi Rob,
    I’ve scrolled through the previous posts and see you’ve recommended a few combinations of supplements and not sure which would apply to me. I’m 28, 5’9″, 160lbs and in pretty good shape.

    However, I can’t seem to get rid of that last bit of fat on my abs, pecs and side handles without starving myself. I’m not looking to bulk but just get ripped.

    I workout mostly at home with p90x and Insanity programs. Any suggestions?

    1. Hey David,
      First I’ll suggest that you download my free “get ripped” ebook for a ton of tips on dieting and exercise. And I’ve a few bonuses too, like a workout log, sample meal plans, and a big list of foods you can eat. I realize you’ve already got your workouts planned, but you can never have too many options. As for supplements, I have a couple suggestions for you. There’s a fat burner called Phen375 that could help you get rid of that stubborn stuff and there’s a pre workout supplement called Nitrocut that gets you there without stimulants. You can use either one by itself, or you could stack them for even quicker results. Best of luck reaching your goals. Stick with it and you’ll get there!

  158. I have two to three months till summer and I have really good muscle memory I used to be a professional fighter I’m looking for a supplements that will shred and give mass not to big though more shredding than anything I would have about 15 pounds to loose to really get back to what I used to look like and suggestions
  159. Hey Rob,

    Im 19, 6’2, weighing around 270. I would really love to get down to around 220-230 by the summer because ive recently got alot of torso tattoos and i want to show them off without being super self concious.

    Im not sure what i need to do workout wise and i really want to take some good fat burners and something else to get me ripped by then. (cheapest route possible please). Ive recently started taking lipozene and so far ive lost around 4 pounds.

    Any help you can give me, is much appreciated!

    Thanks again,
    1. Hey Stephen,
      The first thing I’ll recommend is that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. Not only is if filled with tips on how to eat and workout to get ripped, but now it also comes with 3 bonuses including a sample meal plan, a workout log, and a big list of foods you can eat. As for supplements, I like a couple of fat burners, like Phen375 and Capsiplex. But they’re more expensive than Lipozene so you’ll have to decide what to do there. And for sure add a pre workout supplement called Nitrocut to your routine. You’ll get way better results from your workouts than you do without.

  160. Hi Rob,

    I am 32 years old, 180, 6’1″. In the last 3 years I have notice my metabolism slowing down and gaining a little belly fat that has never been there.

    I work 50-60 hours a week and havent ever been huge in lifting weights. So my time is very limited.

    I am going to start running 2-3 times a week and maybe do push ups and sit ups at night. What else should I take that would help me the most considering I’m not going to be pumping the weights?

    Interested in getting in shape rather than getting big. Thanks in advance!

    1. Hey James,

      With your situation and stats, go with HyperGH 14X. It’s a natural Human Growth Hormone releaser. With more HGH, you’ll have more energy, you’ll feel better and stronger, you’ll lose fat and gain muscle more easily, you’ll even sleep better. Given the fact that you’re not really lifting, but trying to get in shape, this is your best fit. You should also download my free ebook on Getting Ripped. It’s got tons of meal and workout plans that could add to your routine to help you reach your goals.

  161. Sorry the message is from my cell phone im 28 today is my birthday and my goal is 50 lbs in 2 to 3 months
    1. Hey Marcus,
      That’s a lot of weight to lose in 2 to 3 months. Go with a stack of Phen375 and Nitrocut. Phen375 is a fat burner and appetite suppressant. It’ll help you drop the weight fast. Nitrocut is your pre-workout supplement to make sure you get the most you can out of your workouts.

  162. Hey bud,
    Very interesting being as though im.on day of.the products and.was.basically going to.get ready to update credit but you’ve cause to pause om.28 today n.a. is my.bday but im tryin to lose.stomache.fat boost metabolism and loose the man boobs lol is there.something u.can recommend that would be more cost effective… I workout about 5x’s a week for 2 hours have 4 children and need the energy im.trying to lose about lbs over the next 3 months please help..
  163. Hey! I came across this page by searching the reviews of those products.

    Thanks for the heads up! I’m trying to loose belly fat and gain muscle in all places… what would you suggest?

    I also have seafood allergies and I’ve noticed a lot of supplements contain some kind of fish or seafood product. What can you reccommend?

    I work out for about an hour a day 5 days a week.
  164. Hi Rob,

    Thanks for the reply. have downloaded you book n shared with few mates who have just started a routine.

    I should have waited for your reply coz i went and ordered for Phen375 yesterday. Can I still use it for a month or so to lose fat and then continue with Nitrocut?


    1. Hey Jacob,
      Absolutely you can! The only reason I didn’t suggest it is because you just said a little belly fat and that’s probably going to respond better to getting in better shape overall (and of course lots of cardio). Go ahead and use the Phen375. You can start use the Nitrocut simultaneously or you can weight. It’s up to your personal preference.

  165. Hey Rob,
    I am on a 3 – 4 day workout routine with 40 mins cardio n 20 mins weights. Looking to loose some belly fat n also ripped.

    Am 34, 75 kgs.

    Can you suggest some supplement combo?

    1. Hey Jacob,

      Definitely go with Nitrocut for your preworkout. And stack in HyperGH 14X to hlep get you lean and energized. Also, if you haven’t already, you should download my free “get ripped” ebook for a bunch of diet and workout tips. And feel free to share it with your friends!

  166. Hey Rob,
    I’m currently 19. A year ago I weighed about 150 lbs and am now sitting in at just under 170.

    I’ve cut down on working out every since graduation but have never used any supplement before but would really like your advice on how to get a huge amount of energy so I’m not tired at the gym. I’ve read that nitric oxide is great but haven’t done any personal testing.

    1. Hey Kyle,
      You definitely want to go with nitric oxide. I like Nitrocut. You and your muscles get all the energy you want, without using central nervous system stimulants.

  167. Hi Rob,
    I am hearing about sixpack shortcuts monster mass work out and after burn fuel. Do you have any idea about this?

    1. Hey Raghu,
      Let me look into them and get some reviews posted for you. Keep checking back for them!

    1. Hey Elias,
      I have personally used Testofuel and recommended it to hundreds of customers with no complaints so far. That said, side effects are always possible with any supplement, check with your doctor to be absolutely sure.

  168. Hey Rob,
    What would you suggest for helping to lose weight? I just got back into working out and am overweight.

    My energy levels are low due to the weight and would like to have more energy to start getting back in shape.

    1. Hey Mike,
      Go with a stack of Nitrocut and Phen375. Nitrocut is a non-stimulant pre-workout that gives you great, clean energy to get you through your workouts. It also increases blood flow so you get great pumps and results. Phen375 is a fat burner/appetite suppressant. It’ll help you start losing the weight quickly so you get motivated by your results.
      You should also download my free “get ripped” ebook for tons of diet and exercise tips. Good luck Mike and once you lose the weight, come back and we’ll talk about you’ll want to take then.

  169. Rob,
    You are a legend! Thanks so much for saving me bulk cash!

    I could use some quick advice.

    I’m 28 and have always been blessed with a great metabolism which has kept me in shape. That is until the last 12-18 months.

    I have stacked on weight in my stomach and chest region.

    Ive never joined up at a gym until today and want to get lean/ripped/shredded before July. Help me!

    What can I be doing/taking to help shred the gut, while building some beach muscle 🙂

    Thanks heaps
    1. Hey Jay,
      Yeah, these scams are ridiculous. I’m amazed they get away with what they do and glad we could help you out. You can return the favor by liking us on Facebook and telling your friends.

      First of all, since it’s really all about diet and exercise, download my free “get ripped” ebook. It’s loaded with great information you can use. As for supplements, go with Nitrocut. It’s a non-stimulant pre-workout, and at your age and with your stats, that’s all you need.

  170. Rob,
    I ordered these products with the intention of using them for a few days to test them out and cancel/return the product. In the fine print it says you are allowed to return the bottle empty, so would it be alright to keep the product and send back the bottles?

    I havent tried them yet, they are in route.
    1. Hey Ethan,
      Theoretically that’s fine. But you might want to check with the company when you call to cancel, just to make sure.

  171. Hi Rob,
    Found out once you order max shred they send you a email in which they say if you continue to keep the product after the trial period they charge you and send you the product every month. I rang em pretty much after 15 minutes after placing the order and cancelled.

    Hope they dont charge any more.

    Your site is great and thanks for all the tips.

    Can you please advise what combo would be the best for a 3-4 day workout routine in a week if I was gonna use Nitrocut, Muscle Advance Creatine Testofuel.

    Am 34, 5’7 and weight 74 kgs.

    1. Hey Jacob,
      Yeah, it’s pretty incredible what they get away with, isn’t it? Glad you figured it out in time.

      Hey, if you like the site, you can help us out by liking us on Facebook and telling your friends!
      As for your supplement routine, are you trying to bulk up?

      Are you looking to get lean and ripped? Let me know what your goals are, and I’ll help you out.

      In the meantime, download my free “get ripped” ebook for diet and exercise tips.
      Looking forward to hearing from you,

  172. Damn, I wish I had read this sooner.
    I have also just received my trials of Max Shred and Dear Antler and took my first doses today.

    I was actually aware of the small print before ordering but done so with the intention I would cancel within the 14 days (as a have no intention in paying £150 for them!).
    I’m now wondering, do I continue to try this for a week or so seeing as I have paid my delivery?

    Or just cut my losses and send them back now?

    1. Hey Andrew,

      I would call them right away and find out directly from them exactly when you have to send the bottles back in order to not be charged. That way, you’re not guessing.

      You’ll know. In the mean time, go ahead and take them.

      I’m pretty sure you’ll find they’re not worth the money.

  173. I have ordered in the morning and later I felt somewhat skeptical and cancelled in the afternoon itself. Thanks to you, I got some idea about how things work and the only site where I saw some truth.

    I am suggested to try “Marked Nutrition” products. Do you suggest them?

    1. Hey Raghu,

      I’m glad you like our site. Feel free to tell your friends and like us on Facebook!

      I haven’t tried any of the Marked Nutrition products myself, but I have seen that they get good feedback on the bodybuilding forums, so they would be a solid bet.

  174. anyone who has order this before realising the added subscriptions I.e (me) ring them before your product arrives! i did and got refunded the shipping fee’s for the free trail helpline was very fast just be careful
  175. Hey Rob, first of all I really appreciate and thank you for being honest in this article. As I was reading through that Men’s Health article and reading through all the comments I was skeptical but as desperate as I was to pack on the muscle I went ahead and order them. Thanks to reading your article I will take your advice and will cancel them as soon as they arrive.

    Secondly, I wanted to ask for your advices on any type of supplement that I can take to pack up some muscle.

    I am 30 years old about 5’9 and weight about 160 lbs.

    Thank you,

  176. Too little too late….got both in the mail yesterday. Gonna call them in morning.

    Haven’t opened either bottle yet. Hopefully they won’t charge me.

  177. Yes I just ordered both products before reading this. They have taken the trial payment already.

    How do I cancel both orders before its to late?
    1. Hey Nick,
      Don’t feel too bad. It happens to the best of us.

      As soon as you receive the products, call the customer service numbers listed either on the website or in your packaging, and tell them you are not interested in continuing to receive their products. You may have to return the bottles you received to avoid being charged for them. (Some of these companies make you return the remaining product, while some don’t).

      If you don’t receive anything before time is up (14 days most likely), call them and cancel anyway. If you don’t, they will surely charge you.

      Good luck. Hopefully you’ll be on top of things early enough that there won’t be a problem.

  178. MaxShred Extreme Antler combined worked well the first 2-3 days then the headache started along with considerable nose bleeding when using kleenex….this is when I had to stop using.

    Didn’t use product right away so 2nd shipment arrived, Now I have 2 Full bottles of each with 0
    chance of refund…Beware!!!!
    1. *as the suggested dosage of 2-3 capsules per day I had only taken 2 capsules/day for a total of 5 days of MaxShred along with suggested dosage of Antler 1x/morning + 1x/night 5 sprays ea. under the tongue for total of 4 days
  179. Well, I’ve read at least a couple of reviews now, after “taking advantage” of the free trial. Now, I got both the Maximum Shred and the Deer Antler spray.

    I have to say, I don’t know if its one product or the combination of the two, but it only took less than a week and I noticed a significant increase in the number of reps I could do during my workout sessions. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to keep up a regular workout schedule since I’ve gotten the products, but it did seem that if used regularly, the potential was there to see the gains I was looking for – strength & muscle mass.

    Just my limited experience since using the products.
  180. Sorry but I orded both supplements and they called me to verify it all and gave me a tracking nunber so no its a scam
  181. Man I appreciate you for this article, damn! I was about to seriously do some research into this stuff after seeing in on my Facebook page.

    Luckly enough, I decided to go to the second page on Google for the FIRST time ever and see your article! So my question now is..even though its a scam does the deer spray actually work?

    And could it stack with NitroCut?
    1. Hey William,

      That’s the million dollar question. Most reputable studies find no real muscle building benefit from using deer antler spray, but some other – less reputable – ones say there may be slight gains in muscle. So the best answer I can give you to the question of whether or not it works is… probably not. But if you’re still interested in stacking with Nitrocut, that would be fine.

  182. I hate scams like that. The truth is simple: there is no a magic pill.

    Get some tested pre and post workout supplements and workout like crazy.

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